From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KSWGc-0000dW-13 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:12:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 386A5E1114; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520C0E0F73 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65AE67E33 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:38:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.887 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.887 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.645, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NhtX7OHTORli for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C648867E2D for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KSRyY-0004Ym-3w for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:37:58 +0000 Received: from 91.85.186.135 ([91.85.186.135]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:37:58 +0000 Received: from slong by 91.85.186.135 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:37:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New PROPERTIES=virtual value to identify meta-packages? Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:36:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4899335F.1000803@gentoo.org> <20080806063026.47f89505@snowcone> <48993D48.8010904@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91.85.186.135 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 79014da7-1979-4910-b46d-5fca5bc57dae X-Archives-Hash: 04b08b88a73c01149dd0e87003b0c088 Zac Medico wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:15:11 -0700 >> Zac Medico wrote: >>> Does this seem like a desirable way to represent the "virtual" >>> attribute? Any suggestions? >> >> Again, I'm not so sure that this doesn't represent multiple separable >> concepts. It seems to imply: >> >> * that the install cost is effectively zero >> * that the resolution cost is effectively zero >> * that the package does not install any files >> * that the package does not use any of the (normal?) ebuild phases, and >> so does not require exclusive pkg_* execution or pkg_* system state >> preservation. >> > > Can't we just treat them like other ebuilds except for the thing > about dependencies? Perhaps more fine-grained attributes could be > added for additional specificity. > Sounds good. Keep existing keyword working how it is, and add new ones after. I'd vote for free-{resolve,install} empty and threadable for the other concepts.