From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KEaaB-0008C5-77 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:59:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEB4FE0338; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED84E0338 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C1C67A97 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.008 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.591, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16-MKcpPdoOA for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD2F67AAE for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KEaZq-0006qB-Pb for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:59:10 +0000 Received: from dslb-084-061-187-128.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.61.187.128]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:59:10 +0000 Received: from skoehler by dslb-084-061-187-128.pools.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:59:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven_K=F6hler?= Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: 0-day bump requests Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:58:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20080704011609.66a81d28@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-061-187-128.pools.arcor-ip.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080618) In-Reply-To: <20080704011609.66a81d28@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 0c4edebf-ef0a-4056-8711-d119ab96301a X-Archives-Hash: 2e21dcbb15b6f2793006dc5b86641995 I'd like to add a few words from the users perspective: > ----- > 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? I hope developers are not annoyed - well, sometimes the words chosen are maybe a bit too offensive. I like these bump requests. I add myself as a CC and wait for some email in my inbox saying "it's in the tree" like most devs like to express it. Unfortunatly, i still have to wait half on hour, until the ebuild is available in the mirrors. Here's my little theory why there are these 0-day bump requests: Gentoo Maintainers seem to be very different. There are packages (opera for example) where we're offered the latest of the latest (even betas and pre-releases and stuff), and new versions are in portage before you've read the news on your favourite news-site. And on the other hand, there are packages like filezilla (to just name an example) where it took ages to get a new version. In addition, filezilla is one of the softwares that shouts at you: "there is a new version of me available. get it now!" And on the third hand (damn, humans only have two) there are important releases like pidgin 2.4.3 which has fixed the ICQ login issue. You saw the bump-request coming, didn't you? > 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early > version bump requests? > ----- Oh please don't discourage bump-requests, even if they are 0-day. I like them because I CC to them. Regards, Sven -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list