From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JbWoG-0003aV-QP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBFBEE06C6; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7581E06C6 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363F466E3F for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.266 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.266, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0vGBwrraTcgV for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7037566E21 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JbWo2-0000Pt-K3 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:22 +0000 Received: from 82.152.206.255 ([82.152.206.255]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:22 +0000 Received: from slong by 82.152.206.255 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:04:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: The KDE overlay moves forward Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:11:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <200803172343.24372.philantrop@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.152.206.255 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.5 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 953c743f-a184-4b4f-bd8a-d9eeabc4fa12 X-Archives-Hash: af3b72333d13ce30c1c7e761fc453d1e Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > For quite some time now, our progress has been impaired by the absence of > features like USE dependencies, ranged dependencies and suggested > dependencies. > How do suggested dependencies help in your work? > Most of us who are working on the overlay have been using alternative > package managers (PM) for quite some time now. Thus, the idea arose to go > a step further and actually make good use of the capabilities they offer > us. > Makes sense; after all you can do whatever you want in an overlay without concern for how it will affect anyone else. > You'll find all the details in the following local copy of PMS with the > kdebuild-1 patch applied: http://www.mailstation.de/pms.pdf > Thanks, I'll have a closer look when I get some downtime. > For starters, we'll be using the new EAPI for live ebuilds (${PV}=-scm) > only, so that users of other PMs will be able to use the rest of the > overlay as before. That's exactly what the kdebuild-1 EAPI was designed > to allow for. > > For users of the KDE overlay's live ebuilds the new EAPI currently means > they will have to use Paludis but there are rumours ;) other PMs are > interested as well. That's the main reason to optionally include it in > PMS. > Could you explain exactly what -scm-foo offers over the existing -cvs implementation? I'm assuming it's something more than what you've outlined here. A bit more info on how the other features have helped would be nice (maybe a GMN article?) Thanks. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list