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[67.8.110.87]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b84sm1967526ywh.17.2016.10.13.06.59.06 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161003215933.GA28448@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <pan$509df$f0ec1efe$a338f6ee$763b580c@cox.net> <20161004222416.GA17685@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> From: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklonite@gmail.com> Message-ID: <ff7ea72e-6bae-4c96-7daa-34b619c60b69@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:01:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161004222416.GA17685@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 248b3618-cce8-4813-a609-35da5a16939d X-Archives-Hash: d48a17cbc4029ea3b447c798d0d40a9f On 10/04/2016 06:24 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > This would actually be another reason to get rid of grub-0, if it can't > build on one of our profiles, it will more than likely never be fixed > upstream because they are now focused on grub-2.x. grub-0 is 32-bit software. You could build it without multilib but you need the dependencies like any other package (and link them statically). And there are other packages on the tree that don't build on all profiles. >> Another alternative would be simply hard-masking it, but leaving it in >> place for those who want it. It does still work, and I see no evidence >> we're removing it due to security issues or breakage. > > We are removing it because upstream has a new version of the software > and has moved on from this one. For most packages, if foo-1.0 is > stable, then foo-2.0 comes to stable, after some point we remove foo-1.0 > from the tree. Grub2 is not really a new version, it's a different product with different use cases. I don't use grub-0 to boot any of my gentoo boxes but I use it for some embedded x86 projects so it's convenient to be able build it off the tree. I remember trying grub2 on one of them a while back and IIRC it more than doubled the size of the image. Just my 2 cents worth. -- Fernando Rodriguez