From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-77793-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>
Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9DB31381F1
	for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:59:14 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19FFFE0BBF;
	Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:59:09 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail-yw0-f174.google.com (mail-yw0-f174.google.com [209.85.161.174])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC25EE0BA0
	for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:59:08 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by mail-yw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u124so53841248ywg.3
        for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:59:08 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version
         :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=lLc9YZ8E4UcnVeBcy6ud7yphjXCT8f0ika39BWi6GSw=;
        b=AZQBB8X4QIeGZsWI2PwHRS9zyG2VWX2gfYd8aA7x9snFq+Mkpp5XP1SMoJZociyv28
         HEKFhq5sDalFsJaqUKivL3z4D7h4VIqEbryF1csGEtIiCoupu+R2rTIJ0f9jBiMAinYp
         ZqMmugOCuB3MUBfPvzTniRSLM1GrtWZRhjWTXyFk/wdFqgGlI9jjoNeV2z7Ty4BixEPR
         sYamF6OZ7+QnjyYHi5L0pjCFf0v0OGp/7GN0V3grLeHjv5b9BlG1lJGgeS/gCO42kl+V
         mjASYwqmt8EyUyBi0tfWcBhWc+CzO/ETmCR1UWzeNRNg7hQ0+FPvsMnwFG99Bx70hF+G
         nULw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
        h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date
         :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=lLc9YZ8E4UcnVeBcy6ud7yphjXCT8f0ika39BWi6GSw=;
        b=SeOXa82CVAyYZvJ8saH5i8yerzUFFlLscm4KBYK36nRLWz4D0WTfhmzi200tPmxC3d
         K6TTQQcvrAHoXvgh7q0js9JecrfeSC0+W7WBaSzJOsnaL8S1DRlJbJmUvkHxwHj2CBS3
         HNaIZxTVlBgOF0siRx+gXaYG5rwfPMKU4gLqE86rS3AhEZTVE7frLlx7bjWG+fSdb6yW
         5G/SHg2GWsGSDLgo59Z8sRKh8LEDpSDemRLPktLZD6sIW++72gO/muGKmf87cUzI3n28
         n7dbbCPGcThNO0FxfYWrVzNNZuNP5LCZlHbOoeKl50GiUFoGdUwC3DX6AVVLqIEiBEt2
         igHg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RlT3l9feQSgNHKyaB7DSHAPlDA2gpU5DblQLNW+4hoYVyggxuplRZOlhNPaS96yrQ==
X-Received: by 10.129.135.68 with SMTP id x65mr1577876ywf.36.1476367147673;
        Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.10.0.10] (67-8-110-87.res.bhn.net. [67.8.110.87])
        by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b84sm1967526ywh.17.2016.10.13.06.59.06
        for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
        (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
        Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
References: <20161003215933.GA28448@whubbs1.gaikai.biz>
 <pan$509df$f0ec1efe$a338f6ee$763b580c@cox.net>
 <20161004222416.GA17685@whubbs1.gaikai.biz>
From: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklonite@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff7ea72e-6bae-4c96-7daa-34b619c60b69@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:01:17 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/45.3.0
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20161004222416.GA17685@whubbs1.gaikai.biz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Archives-Salt: 248b3618-cce8-4813-a609-35da5a16939d
X-Archives-Hash: d48a17cbc4029ea3b447c798d0d40a9f

On 10/04/2016 06:24 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>  
>  This would actually be another reason to get rid of grub-0, if it can't
>  build on one of our profiles, it will more than likely never be fixed
>  upstream because they are now focused on grub-2.x.

grub-0 is 32-bit software. You could build it without multilib but you need
the dependencies like any other package (and link them statically). And there
are other packages on the tree that don't build on all profiles.

>> Another alternative would be simply hard-masking it, but leaving it in 
>> place for those who want it.  It does still work, and I see no evidence 
>> we're removing it due to security issues or breakage.
> 
> We are removing it because upstream has a new version of the software
> and has moved on from this one. For most packages, if foo-1.0 is
> stable, then foo-2.0 comes to stable, after some point we remove foo-1.0
> from the tree.

Grub2 is not really a new version, it's a different product with different
use cases. I don't use grub-0 to boot any of my gentoo boxes but I use it for
some embedded x86 projects so it's convenient to be able build it off the
tree. I remember trying grub2 on one of them a while back and IIRC it more
than doubled the size of the image.

Just my 2 cents worth.

-- 

Fernando Rodriguez