From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CF6E1381F1 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1980E0B27; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61F7E0B07 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-73-53-75-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.53.75.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zlg) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F4A7340871 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care) To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: From: Daniel Campbell Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 02:59:28 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SPjMr1lk7AtB7pGVam9j98rtB0L16r647" X-Archives-Salt: e67bbdf8-9d84-41a5-92c5-ac34399dd8a7 X-Archives-Hash: 4fedfbc6ec8f0855cb3ac20b67c71bb7 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SPjMr1lk7AtB7pGVam9j98rtB0L16r647 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SuFC57ANvWTp0t5WVMhq9pVLaKGOg6gNb" From: Daniel Campbell To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recruiting process (Re: [gentoo-dev] base-system needs developers who care) References: In-Reply-To: --SuFC57ANvWTp0t5WVMhq9pVLaKGOg6gNb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/24/2016 08:24 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > This...kinda touches on a side issue. I've been a bit waylaid by RL > issues during my quest to become a developer myself, and both of my > prospective mentors had to step aside for the same reason before the > process could finish. >=20 > I'm a little slow on the quizzes and some recent changes in gentoo > invalidated some of my answers, so part of it is my fault for falling > behind. >=20 > But I was kinda wondering, is there anything that can be done to beef u= p > the manpower? Is there any need to? (snipped HTML quote; stick to plaintext please) The situation you described isn't that uncommon in Gentoo. We're a bit smaller than we used to be, but I've also noticed that more people are being brought on than they were when I first started using Gentoo in 2012 and even near the time I was accepted as a developer. Being a recruiter and/or mentor is no small task. You need to be extremely comfortable talking about the nitty gritty of ebuilds and a strong grasp of the PMS would be even better. Absorbing that information takes time, and I wonder if despite the new blood we've been getting, some knowledge isn't being passed down as well as it maybe should be. Given that so much needs to be learned and a lot of trust goes into developers, it's no surprise that we tend to take our time accepting people. That said, I chalk it up to a manpower problem. As far as I know the recruiting and proxy-maint teams are dedicated, but small. They do an awesome job (that I am not cut out for) so they deserve a lot of respect. But it does indeed seem that scheduling and workloads are not in sync. --=20 Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 --SuFC57ANvWTp0t5WVMhq9pVLaKGOg6gNb-- --SPjMr1lk7AtB7pGVam9j98rtB0L16r647 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXvsGBAAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwo9MQANIIv52YT1dQqPkQDKpwsQWS bjC6xSsc/aeULPXE9gfGoU7F/0o5k4FIzDywG1X6LAtGkfiVtdUzVxVwk0IaEkbq oMD+iKUfWSjwbGnzhZGlcxdljAXJ+MtpS1gUmUvzalZbrKro1EgkOZlVyAm3nI6u 7+5zfxtp+uqmLtfxiExaXoEkGHwCX4C8RJZB1X+sQ55QH5slcvYmoVyH/Lr/3ehp SK5dIfd4iJ6IE/VpKqFC9kFH2V+6lFZVH//ofjJejQKV1HiglUgb9nSr0OvwHWp9 kkkNySTkXNRq63eomnkUPZvPtH3xjnVybQlEBdAeU/zwUtpBE1CP31pO7KM6d7uO sYIeawW86CC0NwSswVbo93E+W5bA99Ng+LwgyrdgnjH+T09qbMjO32c9nQB/PD2I W5yhv8aAxj+faF6/GkRPP1mVbmvjaAnQxWB0OAonbXpR0BBa5OHwJ41YDbppgYeK zJQmqRiL2aM6jZol2Bsg7sdBFd3P27jkkgFXoZ3YjakppYZf7q9tfWbrNlqNExqO p5jok6zWcZ8wvaZnwp27JTCuGBYB0a6iAqzKPWD8K+9vUocFT33EFQWretBD+ADU SbazisLmAFT0nSDjAe6XQZ4S8aaH1EusN2k7vEvn2d0v4bb+yN0Jb+fEMgz2X+g1 Yemq8bj9QtIyGcLo0Qs4 =seKC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SPjMr1lk7AtB7pGVam9j98rtB0L16r647--