[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

[Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org>]

Christina Fullam wrote:

> I suppose the problem is high-volume and excessive flaming/trolling/OT.
> The proposed solution asks that every developer take an active role,
> yes, so that could easily equal more work - but I have little doubts
> that there are developers that will take an interest in doing it.
> 
> However, all that aside, here is another way this change could be
> implemented:
> 
> -core stays private. I really dont see the need to change IMO.

Agreed.

> -project (call it what you will) would be for the off topic, non
> development emails that we so commonly see. this list would be optional
> for all developers.

Agreed.  Though "off-topic" could be replaced by "non-technical".

> -dev (no preference for the name) would be for development discussion
> for devs and non-devs alike. everyone would all start out on a
> whitelist. any developer could opt to move a dev or non-dev to the
> moderated list (meaning their emails would be delayed allowing for
> moderation or simple release after a given time period).
>
> The check and balance for this would be that if any developer was found
> to be moderating someone unnecessarily, that developer themself would be
> moved to the moderated list by devrel for a time period without any
> access rights to change anything further themselves. Repeat offenders
> would be reviewed by devrel for further action if needed. this list
> would be required for all developers.

I'd prefer short-term banning to moderating.  Once an individual is
moderated, who is expected to review their mails?  Who is reviewing the
reviews?  Is devrel really prepared, in resources and spirit, to
evaluate every email sent by a moderated individual?

If you feel you are, then you have my support.


> I dont think for a moment that it is only non-devs causing this
> excessive amount of email which often results in flaming/trolling. I do
> agree that everyone should be bound by the same rules.

Agreed.

> Thoughts?


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