From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I963X-0004Ud-ND for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:18:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6CLHJ1E004025; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:17:19 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6CLD8Aj029907 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:13:09 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFA3657CC for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.395 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.285, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id doi7g1iEDcTD for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765F6657BF for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I95y4-0002SM-IQ for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:12:56 +0200 Received: from gw.ptr-80-238-235-157.customer.ch.netstream.com ([80.238.235.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:12:56 +0200 Received: from dev-zero by gw.ptr-80-238-235-157.customer.ch.netstream.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:12:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tiziano_M=FCller?= Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:12:45 +0200 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig546E58F62EA197BE51C52CA0" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.ptr-80-238-235-157.customer.ch.netstream.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070618) In-Reply-To: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 9eea7e8e-fe9d-44b4-9cff-63079dc230b2 X-Archives-Hash: 761f551eae4c42d36f38c05e8cca4af3 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig546E58F62EA197BE51C52CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Doty schrieb: > All- >=20 > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to whe= re only > devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who mod= erate in > bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the > gentoo-project list will be created to take over what -dev frequently b= ecomes. > there is no requirement to be on this new list. Hmm, interesting. Should "We're going to change..." be interpreted as a fact and the voting itself is only a formal thing? Because if that's the case, we can close -dev completely and just keep -announcement and admire the decisions made by some people. >=20 > This will probably remove the need for -core(everything gets leaked out= anyway) > but that's a path to cross later. >=20 > We're voting on this next council meeting so if you have input, now wou= ld be > the time. Let's go for censorship! Let's vote for gagging those users who don't have any idea of development and those ex-devs who think they still have anything to say. And to give that comment a technical side: - Do you think that any dev will regularly check for messages written by users he barely knows and give his ok? Risking being moderated himself if somebody else with magic foo thinks that the post was inappropriate? - Who decides/defines when a post is a bad post? - What if one dev thinks a post is inappropriate and rejects it, can another dev still let it through? - Why not just make -core o+r if you think that it gets leaked out anyway and leave -dev as it is? - When do we start with the moderation of -project? Cheers. --------------enig546E58F62EA197BE51C52CA0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlplRGwVqY66cHjARAhHxAJ4t/mOj8OmW0vc+c6BBSa+ub7h1HwCfUXtB ETApYHQEQu31FVs0Gb44oAU= =h6Q0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig546E58F62EA197BE51C52CA0-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list