From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I6TqT-0007rG-9s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:06:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l65G57Ki011435; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:05:07 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l65G2aWp008474 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:36 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A6B65A36 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: 0.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.433 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.820, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.253] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QRMoKSFs+OOO for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C506588B for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I6Tmj-00076s-Ff for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:02:25 +0200 Received: from 82.152.252.235 ([82.152.252.235]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:02:25 +0200 Received: from slong by 82.152.252.235 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:02:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: package with funny licence Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:03:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18058.8984.63918.143003@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20070703190152.66063bfe@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <200707042202.31726.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20070704215810.2f87c44f@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.152.252.235 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 1c4a303b-b99a-421f-9c39-4925ccd3566b X-Archives-Hash: 27b115431fe375a0c5903b6774fabdb4 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:28:04 +0100 > Steve Long wrote: > >> It maybe be Published by some group, but they seem to make no >> restrictions whatsoever. As such, I'd personally feel quite happy >> using it as-is; I don't think they much care either way :-) > > Hmmm. A license is *needed* as long as modifying/distributing the > package is restricted by copyright. The as-is license specifically > grants you the right to use the software it pertains to. Without an > explicit license, you may not (ever) modify or distribute it. You would > need to obtain permission from the copyright owner in that case - > otherwise the normal copyright restrictions are in effect. > Sure but afaict they disavow all restrictions. In response (aiui) to the standard question "What may we do with this?" the first line reads: "You're allowed. You're a bozo." "The BOZO Manifesto" takes up the rest of the document, wherein "The Bozotic Software Foundation (hereafter referred to as "us" or "you" or "everyone except Emacs-19")" imo stipulates that in effect the users are part of the group holding publishing rights, or rather that the code is public domain ("everyone except Emacs-19".) > Again, to ask the copyright owner for a simple (written) statement > saying how the software may be (freely or not) distributed and modified > is currently the next step. > Agreed; I'm sure I've seen that ben@gnu addy on other software if manson is non-responsive. An email counts as written ofc, although a gpg sig might be advisable. (Although I do not think this particular case merits such caution.. but then, I'm a bozo ;) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list