From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E90E158089 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B64112BC07C; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from james.steelbluetech.co.uk (james.steelbluetech.co.uk [92.63.139.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76D7C2BC079 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ukinbox.ecrypt.net (hq2.ehuk.net [10.0.10.2]) by james.steelbluetech.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B148BFC11 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:36:56 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 james.steelbluetech.co.uk 0B148BFC11 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ehuk.net; s=default; t=1694525816; bh=d9LiIMDoVR7rZ//nqOFOiJ5Sgb0nTE7ZzslpaHZptlE=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To:From; b=HgCCMkA2L0+RRX9DtdOmnZYrCpxOGvrZBwvSOckC4GHwIvw29fqwo0QKJ5e1hWezP uSsAiebzu71hVKPOjp2bJqqRT0Pc2Ak/MdP0xzPF752IvV0fEebx/2G/7YnIywOVR8 V+N5qX1NqgwoZJBR09lAUK4+FbxCMWpB3kcmzwmcsVb2f7G8Ezq6Hw011+K6W4V9OE S9Jhdqs7JK4g4sYWmrqYpWILktxsNgo8xINloGE5mcyrShIp3bDctnSXts2Daq+1aY bXncsH4Tz6pQgYr8MmcXpyfdCXINvFVPNIt8fbbn1qLtRTZpUqHZAdvTWwG1KsUMuG B+5XmCHx83u3w== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <877cowxs1c.fsf@gentoo.org> References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <20230911082243.65aa85f5@Akita> <4128737.ElGaqSPkdT@kona> <20230911084231.73dd619f@Akita> <5848191c-8708-edfe-0c69-eeced3907b0d@gmail.com> <87zg1szc23.fsf@gentoo.org> <5d96d41de2f7057b42b436783678c8c4.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <87zg1sxu88.fsf@gentoo.org> <6aca04641c105c3fc72910fdbb7b6c01.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <877cowxs1c.fsf@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 14:36:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev From: "Eddie Chapman" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang X-Archives-Salt: da60c774-a95d-48e1-bc16-ccfa7c556ce5 X-Archives-Hash: 895ce6a6c347343623edd5260f617337 Sam James wrote: > > "Eddie Chapman" writes: >>>> So what's the situation with the current Gentoo maintainers? Have >>>> they disappeared? I often see on here packages being offered up for >>>> grabs. Why >>>> hasn't there been a call to give others the opportunity to volunteer >>>> as maintainers rather than going straight to last riting the package? >>>> Or >>>> has that happened and I've missed it, in which case I apologise. >>> >>> There was a year ago or so and nothing really came out of it. But see >>> above wrt 'tags'. >> >> A year is a long time, there might well now be people willing to take >> over maintaining it that were not willing to 1 year ago, if that is what >> is required. > > They have a month to step up anyway, although that will involve > upstream activity too. I see there was already a change in the tree yesterday that assumes sys-fs/eudev is going (commit d46677fd864b30315423c8364ca44db2de98e2a1, sys-fs/mdadm/mdadm-4.2-r2, amd64 stable keyworded). Has this actually been decided behind the scenes already? This starts to smell a little ugly unless I've completely misunderstood something. I hope I'm wrong. One thing I don't understand: the Gentoo project page for eudev lists 4 members including the lead, and FWICT they are mostly still active in other areas of Gentoo (recent commits to the tree in other packages). The project lead is also an original author of eudev. I find it hard to believe that all 4 of these people have completely lost interest in eudev in Gentoo. Have any of these 4 maintainers publicly said (anywhere) that they are not interested in being maintainers anymore (which is fine if that is the case)? We're not talking here about a lone maintainer of some peripheral package that's disappeared leaving an orphaned package. I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed something. I just find it puzzling.