From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hdgav-0000o8-FR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:51:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3H5o2Hw026803; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:50:02 GMT Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3H5kcCu021706 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:46:39 GMT Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so3305058wxd for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:46:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CS7WRg7dprPuHFICqrxmDorWZgtdKsCHJjkOgWcCSjJ4Rs6sVd51jVaXEYPWWKt+Nr3qovloNvnyTO9fKkZP/8rRsdBL/wV3qq5lsWAmgXSpwOfLSmWGhU3LNczL3gKUSAmvATh3a+X5QyzVAiyz6OvX+JSIDJn6EOM0+Lxu2/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lnU0clcUrlkfpEC4qSCmOUHrxly/CT0k0g5NjsR8pVLb1rHC5gghlF0F1R13dbJbgQ5AN61/x4HRD4hlxu3+/nDNpw+nC6LmzbczF2Bj/yhg8TJwqxz/e+tCIamwbuZ3DP+MuagYjp6YoxdSQc872tBtnAHhNYcw1tWlSW3+T7A= Received: by 10.90.104.14 with SMTP id b14mr5835540agc.1176788798123; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.78.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:46:38 +0200 From: "Rob C" Sender: hyakuhei@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation In-Reply-To: <9fce88250704162101y4be89dc3s36bb988944757c62@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32591_127201.1176788798069" References: <9fce88250704162101y4be89dc3s36bb988944757c62@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 10f4768d70129cbe X-Archives-Salt: 33bbadc7-a812-4ab3-8d19-0f24431313da X-Archives-Hash: cdb8c3b60538d6f812e6a04b0d06fc51 ------=_Part_32591_127201.1176788798069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 17/04/07, Jakub Moc wrote: > > So.... Since devrel has been so kind and suspended me, based on our > brand new CoC, I don't feel any need to stay on this project any more. > I'm therefore resigning from this project. > > I'm pretty sure it will be actually no loss for Gentoo, since those > folks that contributed to my retirement far outweigh the benefit I > could ever possibly be to this project. This can be clearly evidenced > by their long-lasting good record as in [1] and [2] and [3]. In > devrel's own words, one needs to "respect the wishes of maintainers". > > So I'm respecting the wishes of said developer and am getting out of > his way - cheers and keep slackin', Colin! Keep on the great work! I > fully understand that respect for wishes of maintainers is far more > important than fixing stuff in the tree for our users; unfortunately > those wishes are incompatible with my tasks of a bug wrangler. Of > course that can be quickly remedied by taking simple steps such as > suspending the offenders who complain on the bugs, so no big deal. > > I'd also like to express my sincere thanks to our QA team, they've > been a tremendous help to me, especially since spb took the position > of QA lead and eroyf joined them. This can be documented on way too > many bugs, this email is getting long so I'd just mention [4] as a > good example of nice work these folks have been doing. Also thanks for > the neutral approach you've taken on the other bugs quoted above, I'm > pretty sure that's the right thing to do for QA. No need at all to be > concerned about bugs that have been sitting there for mere two years, > we shouldn't make the precious maintainers angry, right. > > Finally, my thanks go to devrel and especially our devrel lead, for > the professional, unbiased etc. conduct they've presented on my > devrel bug [5] (sorry, ask your friendly devrel member to unrestrict > if you can't read it, after all I can't access it either), as well as > before. I indeed entirely failed when I removed myself from the > "discussion about possible misbehaviour on [my] side". I'm pretty sure > the fact that noone CCed me there in the first place for about 9 > months was just an unfortunate oversight of our fully professional > devrel. So, thanks a bunch again, kloeri. I'm the worst CoC offender > in the whole Gentoo ever, and fully deserve to be punished. In no way > we should disturb the old good boys club around #-uk, that could > endanger your position and would require guts; no need for that. > > Whoever is in charge, kindly change my bugzilla account to the email > address this mail is sent from and take care of the setting the > bugzilla privs accordingly. There's still a couple of bugs I've filed > and maybe someone will take care of them. (No need to worry, Colin, > you can sit on your bugs as long as you wish, I won't disturb you in > your limbo), > > For all the rest of folks that haven't found themselves above, sorry, > no thanks for you in this mail. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't > appreciate to be thanked in this context, and that's a good thing. > > So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish! > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82772 > [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143519 > [3] http://cia.vc/stats/author/peitolm > [4] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166790 > [5] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134852 > > -- > > Jakub Moc > Email: jakub.moc@gmail.com > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > You are one of the most productive devs we have (had...). You've helped me on more than on occasion. While I'm sure anybody could build a "the world hates me" case from selecting a few particular bugzie entries I'm also pretty sure that peoples personalities will have caused more of an issue here than their actions... Good luck in the future, enjoy having some free time! -Rob -- /** * Gentoo Linux Developer * GPG : 0x2217D168 */ ------=_Part_32591_127201.1176788798069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 17/04/07, Jakub Moc <jakub.moc@gmail.com> wrote:
So....  Since devrel has been so kind and suspended me, based on our
brand new CoC, I don't feel any need to stay on this project any more.
I'm therefore resigning from this project.

I'm pretty sure it will be actually no loss for Gentoo, since those
folks that contributed to my retirement far outweigh the benefit I
could ever possibly be to this project. This can be clearly evidenced
by their long-lasting good record as in [1] and [2] and [3]. In
devrel's own words, one needs to  "respect the wishes of maintainers".

So I'm respecting the wishes of said developer and am getting out of
his way - cheers and keep slackin', Colin! Keep on the great work! I
fully understand that respect for wishes of maintainers is far more
important than fixing stuff in the tree for our users; unfortunately
those wishes are incompatible with my tasks of a bug wrangler. Of
course that can be quickly remedied by taking simple steps such as
suspending the offenders who complain on the bugs, so no big deal.

I'd also like to express my sincere thanks to our QA team, they've
been a tremendous help to me, especially since spb took the position
of QA lead and eroyf  joined them. This can be documented on way too
many bugs, this email is getting long so I'd just mention [4] as a
good example of nice work these folks have been doing. Also thanks for
the neutral approach you've taken on the other bugs quoted above, I'm
pretty sure that's the right thing to do for QA. No need at all to be
concerned about bugs that have been sitting there for mere two years,
we shouldn't make the precious maintainers angry, right.

Finally, my thanks go to devrel and especially our devrel lead, for
the professional,  unbiased etc. conduct they've presented on my
devrel bug [5] (sorry, ask your friendly devrel member to unrestrict
if you can't read it, after all I can't access it either), as well as
before. I indeed entirely failed when I removed myself from the
"discussion about possible misbehaviour on [my] side". I'm pretty sure
the fact that noone CCed me there in the first place for about 9
months was just an unfortunate oversight of our fully professional
devrel. So, thanks a bunch again, kloeri. I'm the worst CoC offender
in the whole Gentoo ever, and fully deserve to be punished. In no way
we should disturb the old good boys club around #-uk, that could
endanger your position and would require guts; no need for that.

Whoever is in charge, kindly change my bugzilla account to the email
address this mail is sent from and take care of the setting the
bugzilla privs accordingly. There's still a couple of bugs I've filed
and maybe someone will take care of them. (No need to worry, Colin,
you can sit on your bugs as long as you wish, I won't disturb you in
your limbo),

For all the rest of folks that haven't found themselves above, sorry,
no thanks for you in this mail. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't
appreciate to be thanked in this context, and that's a good thing.

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82772
[2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143519
[3] http://cia.vc/stats/author/peitolm
[4] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166790
[5] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134852

--

Jakub Moc
Email: jakub.moc@gmail.com
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


You are one of the most productive devs we have (had...). You've helped me on more than on occasion.

While I'm sure anybody could build a "the world hates me" case from selecting a few particular bugzie entries I'm also pretty sure that peoples personalities will have caused more of an issue here than their actions...

Good luck in the future, enjoy having some free time!

-Rob
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