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From: Steve Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 02:42:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5cl2h$jpo$2@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 467993B9.90707@gentoo.org

Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> Andrew Gaffney wrote:
>>> I'm not sure that's really a feasible solution (but then you probably
>>> weren't suggesting it with that intention). Being able to create a
>>> "backup" of any installed package without re-emerging is pretty
>>> handy. Many people use it and there would be a revolt if quickpkg
>>> were removed.
>> 
>> Then live-filesystem-generated packages could be marked as 'not for
>> redistribution'.
> 
> That's certainly a lot more feasible. However, it would have to be marked
> in some way that portage would recognize, and that marking could still
> likely be easily removed.
> 
It's more feasible than banning the creation of packages from a running
system, that's true. The original solution doesn't seem so infeasible to me
though.. I have a feeling this is more about an alternative bin format ;)

> This still allows the social engineering attack. Someone can get a binpkg
> created with quickpkg of someone else's baselayout and then remove the
> marking that would make portage gripe.
> 
Agreed. 

As a user, I'd much rather just be able to quickpkg whenever I choose, and
know that the system will not allow sensitive files to be copied. Starting
with /etc/shadow and the like is great by me, as I'm fairly sure there'll
be a sensible plain-text config file I can edit by hand if I need to. If I
were to allow such files to be copied, I'd like a warning. Yes I mess up
sometimes, so what? I'm the user, it's expected ;p


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-20  4:47 [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 10:45 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-06-20 10:49 ` Marius Mauch
2007-06-20 11:54   ` [gentoo-dev] VDB Changes (Was Re: how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages) Steve Long
2007-06-20 19:57   ` [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 20:18     ` Petteri Räty
2007-06-20 20:27       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 20:35         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 20:48           ` Olivier Crête
2007-06-20 20:55             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 20:54           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 21:01             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 21:19               ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 21:22                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 21:38                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 21:48                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 21:59                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 22:02                 ` Olivier Crête
2007-06-20 22:28                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 22:41                     ` Olivier Crête
2007-06-20 22:50                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 23:11                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-20 23:44                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 22:31               ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-20 22:35                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 22:49                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-06-20 23:08                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-20 23:12                     ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-06-20 23:51                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-06-20 23:18                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-21  7:57                   ` Tobias Klausmann
2007-06-20 22:58               ` Jan Kundrát
2007-06-20 21:04       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-06-20 21:11     ` Ned Ludd
2007-06-20 21:38       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 13:04 ` Olivier Crête
2007-06-20 13:15   ` Matthias Schwarzott
2007-06-20 15:43     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-06-20 16:44     ` [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-06-20 20:07   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 20:12     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 20:19       ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-06-20 20:25         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-20 20:53           ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-06-20 21:09             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-06-21  1:38               ` [gentoo-dev] User warnings (Was Re: how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages) Steve Long
2007-06-21  1:42             ` Steve Long [this message]
2007-06-21  0:13           ` [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages Josh Saddler
2007-06-21  2:24             ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-21  3:04               ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-21  3:18                 ` Josh Saddler
2007-06-21  6:11                 ` Ned Ludd
2007-06-21  6:23                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-06-21  6:17                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-06-22  6:24                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-06-20 20:26       ` Mike Frysinger

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