From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FF04158091 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15DF1E08EC; Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACCF0E08C4 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: William Hubbs Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 11:37:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20220613074411.341909-1-flow@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 0e549cf1-a964-48a0-8888-d16ce285b06b X-Archives-Hash: 9a660db2d52fd846440c6fd4084609f4 On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 10:29 +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 09:44 +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote: > > Judging from the gentoo-dev@ mailing list discussion [1] about EGO_SUM, > > where some voices where in agreement that EGO_SUM has its raison d'=C3= =AAtre, > > while there where no arguments in favor of eventually removing EGO_SUM, > > I hereby propose to undeprecate EGO_SUM. > >=20 > > 1: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/1a64a8e7694c3ee11cd48= a58a95f2faa > >=20 >=20 > "We've been rehashing the discussion until all opposition got tired > and stopped replying, then we claim everyone agrees". First of all, I am sorry for my tone. I have been thinking about it and I was wrong to oppose this change. I have been conflating two problem: EGO_SUM and Manifest sizes.=20 However, while EGO_SUM might be an important factor contributing to the latter, I think we shouldn't single it out and instead focus on addressing the actual problem. That said, I believe it's within maintainer's right to decide what API to deprecate and what API to support. So I'd suggest getting William's approval for this rather than changing the supported API of that eclass via drive-by commits. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny