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From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/3] elisp{,-common}.eclass update for emacs-vcs consolidation
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:28:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f41351af-f778-081b-9643-0a5969185498@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w6gtv5xpp7t.fsf@kph.uni-mainz.de>

On 12/18/19 11:34 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> 
> Removal of the virtual/emacs ebuilds won't remove the installed package
> from users' systems. It will eventually disappear, when all its reverse
> dependencies have been updated. Why would its continued presence as an
> installed package (for another while) cause any problems?

Unless the VDB is updated, portage will see a dependency on a package
that doesn't exist and could refuse to do a lot of things like a @world
update involving a rebuild of one of those packages, or a --depclean.

This *does* happen if you mask virtual/emacs. It *could* happen if you
delete it.


> Revbumping its more than 400 reverse dependencies really doesn't sound
> so attractive, and would cause rebuilds on users' systems for virtually
> (pun intended :-) no benefit.

If portage bails on an update and I have to troubleshoot the problem for
ten minutes, then that's already wasted more of my time than if it
reinstalled all 400 revdeps. The benefit is that people don't get
cryptic messages from a confused packaged manager that they have to
debug all day.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-18 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18 11:08 [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/3] elisp{,-common}.eclass update for emacs-vcs consolidation Ulrich Müller
2019-12-18 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/3] elisp-common.eclass: Allow full versions in elisp-need-emacs() Ulrich Müller
2019-12-18 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] elisp-common.eclass: Update documentation Ulrich Müller
2019-12-18 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/3] elisp.eclass: Depend on app-editors/emacs directly Ulrich Müller
2019-12-18 11:47 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/3] elisp{,-common}.eclass update for emacs-vcs consolidation Michał Górny
2019-12-18 12:01   ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-18 12:19 ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-12-18 16:34   ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-18 23:28     ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2019-12-20  1:19       ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-12-21  6:57         ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-21 11:27           ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-12-21 11:39             ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-21 11:41               ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-12-21 11:50                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-21 11:49               ` Michael Orlitzky
2019-12-21 11:52                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-12-21 13:31                   ` Michael 'veremitz' Everitt
2019-12-20 13:43 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] elisp-common.eclass: New function elisp-check-emacs-version Ulrich Müller
2019-12-20 13:43 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] elisp-common.eclass: Update documentation Ulrich Müller
2019-12-20 13:44 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] elisp.eclass: Depend on app-editors/emacs directly Ulrich Müller
2019-12-20 22:10   ` Ulrich Mueller

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