Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/3] app-admin/kube-bench: convert to go-module go.sum

[desultory <desultory@gentoo.org>]

On 02/14/20 11:14, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:31 AM Sam Jorna (wraeth) <wraeth@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> In this instance, at least two people (myself included) have drawn an
>> impression that led them to voice their concern in some way (I'm unsure if
>> mpagano was voicing concern or just agreeing with the general concept). Maybe
>> we're the only ones. Maybe not.
> 
> What do you think the threshold should be? If one person objects,
> should ComRel cease and desist? Two? Should we have a Gentoo-wide
> vote?
> 
How many people objecting to your handling of a situation would it take
for you to consider that you might have handled it in a less than ideal
manner? Two? Three? Do we need unanimous declaration by all holders of
@gentoo.org e-mail addresses, including yourself, before you even
consider it?

> I don't have the highest opinion of ComRel and I'm a member, but maybe
> you could let us do our jobs?
> 
> 
Given that I am not your therapist, I am going to consider this comment
from an objective perspective not en emotional one. Given that you
"don't have the highest opinion of ComRel", that implies rather strongly
that you do not consider ComRel to be competent. Given that you are
still a member, that implies that either (1) you consider yourself to
not be the least competent member of ComRel (presumably of basic
competence), or (2) you are a member specifically to attempt to gain
such competence. In the former case, perhaps consider undertaking
training of those less competent than you (thereby improving your
opinion of ComRel as a whole), in the latter do kindly avoid undertaking
actions that you are not competent in.

As for the "maybe you could let us do our jobs?" part of that comment,
this appears to be a distinctly worrying trend among "special" projects
in Gentoo. Proctors now openly refuse to actually undertake their
mandate because they face the existential horror of negative feedback
when they make outlandishly perverse claims. ComRel now insists, by
implication, that while it is by the description of at least one member
openly incompetent, feedback is unwelcome at best. Even QA has made
similar sorts of empty appeals to their own authority, while also
refusing to actually argue their case. None of these should be at all
acceptable, yet somehow this nonsense is largely left uncontested for
reasons that escape me entirely, If you cannot adequately "do [y]our
job", consider that perhaps you should not be doing it in the first place.