From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DDCF15802E for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFBF12BC165; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from matoro.tk (unknown [IPv6:2600:1700:4b10:9d80::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82B6F2BC162 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:45:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; bh=yujwDf7xKne7p1urUKlEvA47dP8aMcNDDtaJMtEPBGY=; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=matoro.tk; h=Subject:Subject:Sender:To:To:Cc:Cc:From:From:Date:Date:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Message-Id:References:References:Autocrypt:Openpgp; i=@matoro.tk; s=20240626; t=1719434731; v=1; x=1719866731; b=Nb+lV0JIhpQBCw8QvE98PG2v41e8ymWf3u4RN33DwTQfMenjgMKMlcU2MX0ZSv8X38gl2oEH tWN4YpCC/r55I05u3gcqBYJaFcEpEp5ZehvuASI/EopZbt9AtUwYeqJwe9E9cQBIGW0zAlMp65X SzCE7tZtVAjO5GzN8HPAmq0OqFJlyTiuh526yj1C0xN28qFOIpfNdpeOHalJNRdjouWT5gC4IuE DDPfleaXT3uIXbqg4LXy+byo5HBcBfgo1dXr7C9XeRbLMEUE6hIS4cCL0/38qnZVpSVpzvrHBcn f6YCHP6tDVcXGrf5Hl9SALycVQdAMHL/d/nlbg9lPkpXgdUvq+k6nUwso9GSK9GdHKxOFJj3HEO 9dkXxQq8IEOoZXP+CD+9YZE006Uct8piNvzbU5N30LJ1bfwVtzn9aHnK8VGsTJZ9jX+Mn25nLSD DIdlnn/lhWLSj+0xK5MFarpxmUFBkQzFma2JYvWDEkx2JRwj339L1yEXB7vbAs8NeGRoz0KFZcZ RP/AOeYKpbH0x+ISnHyGDhn7VXt0i1P/7Uf/4cLucn8Kim+gl3ufpyepfc4UPc0rnt/jixzdC4W GejzKSoD+1eVLRmDcsxgoeLKbbQxUt1SkaWyPvAvtznuXEdcI3Lp8iP65CQ6gaplqcDcuTEPzku +PUhBQ1AEuU= Received: by matoro.tk (envelope-sender ) with ESMTPS id 3805e3b7; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:45:31 -0400 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:45:31 -0400 From: matoro To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Arthur Zamarin , Sam James Subject: Re: ia64, was: Re: Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans) In-Reply-To: <46472341.fMDQidcC6G@pinacolada> References: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org> <87bk3opnks.fsf@gentoo.org> <46472341.fMDQidcC6G@pinacolada> Message-ID: X-Sender: matoro_mailinglist_gentoo-dev@matoro.tk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: edbcdc38-59fb-4130-83d5-3c9699a8c0ff X-Archives-Hash: 214a957d1f8b7de9e771294f52f172ce On 2024-06-26 16:29, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> > ======== ia64 ======== >> > >> > Dev 64-bit arch. Kernel dropped support, glibc dropped support, devbox >> > died - days are short before full exp status or full removal of arch. >> >> Yeah, no interest in ia64, sorry. I'd like it to just go. > > This is probably unavoidable given that our devbox and stage builder is > unstable > now regularly dies (and that there is also no qemu support). > > I'm all for keeping what we can, but we need > * people to do the work > * hardware to test > > If *both* is missing it's kinda hopeless. I will continue to keep ia64 in shape until its final removal from Gentoo. Also, your earlier point about exp arches is fantastic. It should be a transition state only, either to dev or to removal.