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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:24:06 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Well, from what I can gather, he only *thinks* he knows what was going
>> on and he's filled in the blanks himself with whatever ideas he's come
>> up with on his own.  If he really does have the logs, he wouldn't be
>> spouting off at the mouth since he would know that there's nothing
>> damning in there, at all.
> 
> I know that you and kingtaco threatened to remove a fellow Council
> member's access if he didn't go along with you on whatever it was you
> were discussing. If there's nothing damning in there, why would you do
> such a thing?
> 
>>From what I have read so far, it wasn't a question of someone being
pressured to "go along with.. whatever it was <they> were discussing" but
rather to keep a confidence. Mr Gianelloni is right: if other parties
cannot have confidential discussions with Gentoo, it will damage the
distribution. As such, it is imo incumbent upon council members to keep
such matters (whatever they might be) private.

He has already stipulated that "all decisions we made were 100% public"
and "We do have to have all of our decisions made public, obviously."

That's transparent enough for me at least. I don't want to be privy to every
discussion, and I certainly don't want to know about say aspects of other
people's private lives which might affect their work, or even that company
X is having confidential talks with gentoo, which might come to nothing. I
just want to enjoy the software and the community, and these frankly
paranoid ramblings make the dev list much less fun.


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