From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GhT6I-0004XR-Ky for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:42:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kA7FfmA9013756; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:41:48 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kA7FaxKR014504 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:37:00 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7391645A9 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:36:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOZqgH2uPzn3 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98077645ED for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GhSzn-00026G-Uf for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:36:15 +0100 Received: from ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:36:15 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:36:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20061101134037.6F126649AC@smtp.gentoo.org> <200611061720.50442.vapier@gentoo.org> <20061106223839.GA6332@gentoo.org> <200611061748.34810.vapier@gentoo.org> <1162902277.23009.2.camel@sys947.dtic.mil> <455092FF.4000308@gentoo.org> <1162911839.20782.1.camel@sys947.dtic.mil> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: pan 0.118 (Gustaf Von Musterhausen) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 31c2c13c-2622-4e87-8bc6-96a2069ee9c6 X-Archives-Hash: 6b5f907250f6dab79780b4c8fca4b4ff Michael Cummings posted 1162911839.20782.1.camel@sys947.dtic.mil, excerpted below, on Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:03:59 -0500: > Knowing about port 587 is half the battle (yeah, read the docs mike:). > Getting it to work from the office with even more restrictive firewalls > is another thing - but are we actually going to stop devs from being > able to send mail without going through the gentoo server, or is this > still just a discussion (vs an impending action)? As I've been reading it, they won't be actually stopping you from sending anything. Those who can send now without issue will continue to be able to do so. The problem and resolution is focused on those having issues with SPF as currently configured. They need a way to be able to send mail without running into that SPF flagging, and the consensus that seems to be developing is to leave the SPF in place as is, but change the policy to encourage, rather than discourage, sending thru Gentoo's servers, so the SPF entries don't /need/ to change. IOW, I don't see anyone proposing changes for those who find their current solution works. The changes are for those having problems with the current solution. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list