* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 22:44 [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
@ 2006-10-22 23:06 ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-22 23:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-10-22 23:28 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-10-23 7:45 ` Harald van Dijk
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4 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Josh Saddler @ 2006-10-22 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the
> tree.
>
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
>
> dev-perl/Xmms-Perl
> dev-python/pyxmms
> gnome-extra/gxmms
> media-plugins/dumb-xmms
> media-plugins/efxmms
> media-plugins/eq-xmms
> media-plugins/modplugxmms
> media-plugins/xalbumlist
> media-plugins/xmmplayer
> media-plugins/xmms-adplug
> media-plugins/xmms-alarm
> media-plugins/xmms-arts
> media-plugins/xmms-blursk
> media-plugins/xmms-btexmms
> media-plugins/xmms-cdcover
> media-plugins/xmms-cdread
> media-plugins/xmms-coverviewer
> media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
> media-plugins/xmms-crystality
> media-plugins/xmms-dflowers
> media-plugins/xmms-dscope
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectogram
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectral
> media-plugins/xmms-extra
> media-plugins/xmms-fc
> media-plugins/xmms-find
> media-plugins/xmms-finespectrum
> media-plugins/xmms-fmradio
> media-plugins/xmms-gdancer
> media-plugins/xmms-goom
> media-plugins/xmms-idcin
> media-plugins/xmms-imms
> media-plugins/xmms-infinity
> media-plugins/xmms-infopipe
> media-plugins/xmms-iris
> media-plugins/xmms-itouch
> media-plugins/xmms-jack
> media-plugins/xmms-jess
> media-plugins/xmms-kde
> media-plugins/xmms-kjofol
> media-plugins/xmms-ladspa
> media-plugins/xmms-libvisual
> media-plugins/xmms-lirc
> media-plugins/xmms-liveice
> media-plugins/xmms-liveplugin
> media-plugins/xmms-lyrc
> media-plugins/xmms-mad
> media-plugins/xmms-midi
> media-plugins/xmms-morestate
> media-plugins/xmms-mp3cue
> media-plugins/xmms-musepack
> media-plugins/xmms-nas
> media-plugins/xmms-nebulus
> media-plugins/xmms-null
> media-plugins/xmms-oggre
> media-plugins/xmms-outpost
> media-plugins/xmms-pipe
> media-plugins/xmms-realrandom
> media-plugins/xmms-repeatit
> media-plugins/xmms-scrobbler
> media-plugins/xmms-shell
> media-plugins/xmms-shn
> media-plugins/xmms-sid
> media-plugins/xmms-smpeg
> media-plugins/xmms-sndfile
> media-plugins/xmms-spc
> media-plugins/xmms-speex
> media-plugins/xmms-tfmx
> media-plugins/xmms-volnorm
> media-plugins/xmms-wakeup
> media-plugins/xmms-wma
> media-plugins/xmms-wmdiscotux
> media-plugins/xmms-xf86audio
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsd
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsmplayer
> media-sound/ctrlxmms
> media-sound/longplayer
> media-sound/madman
> media-sound/xmms
> x11-plugins/gaim-xmms-remote
> x11-themes/xmms-themes
>
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
>
> Yes this is long overdue...
>
I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision made in the
previous discussion(s) about this.
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2006-10-22 23:06 ` Josh Saddler
@ 2006-10-22 23:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-10-22 23:28 ` Dan Meltzer
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From: Stephen Bennett @ 2006-10-22 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:06:00 -0700
Josh Saddler <nightmorph@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision
> made in the previous discussion(s) about this.
Not really. It should have been gone long ago, but every time someone
took over to save it from its long overdue fate. Just let it die,
rather than hanging around zombie-like in the tree for another eternity.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 23:06 ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-22 23:26 ` Stephen Bennett
@ 2006-10-22 23:28 ` Dan Meltzer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dan Meltzer @ 2006-10-22 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 10/22/06, Josh Saddler <nightmorph@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
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> I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision made in the
> previous discussion(s) about this.
Relooking at the discussion, it appears it was quite clear, the sound
herd does not want to maintain it, no one else stepped up, it would be
put in an overlay once it was punted.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 22:44 [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-22 23:06 ` Josh Saddler
@ 2006-10-23 7:45 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-10-23 8:36 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-23 9:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
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4 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Harald van Dijk @ 2006-10-23 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:43:52AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the
> tree.
>
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
[...]
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
What will be done for IUSE=xmms? Should it stay or go? If it should go,
I assume it should not be now (in case someone wants to step up and
maintain xmms), but if not, when?
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2006-10-23 7:45 ` Harald van Dijk
@ 2006-10-23 8:36 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
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From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-10-23 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Monday 23 October 2006 09:45, Harald van Dijk wrote:
> What will be done for IUSE=xmms? Should it stay or go? If it should go,
> I assume it should not be now (in case someone wants to step up and
> maintain xmms), but if not, when?
I've currently masked, packages will be upgraded to remove the IUSE when the
delete is final.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 22:44 [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-22 23:06 ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-23 7:45 ` Harald van Dijk
@ 2006-10-23 9:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-23 14:08 ` Michael Cummings
2006-10-29 18:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
4 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-10-23 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Monday 23 October 2006 00:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
The following were missing (no RDEPEND on xmms, but builddep)
# These weren't rdepending on xmms at all
media-plugins/xmms-synaesthesia
media-plugins/xmms-ir
x11-plutins/desklet-cornerxmms
media-plugins/mpg123
media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
media-plugins/xmms-nsf
media-plugins/xmms-status-plugin
media-sound/xmmsctrl
x11-plugins/gkrellmms
x11-plugins/wmalbum
x11-plugins/wmusic
x11-plugins/wmxmms
rox-extra/roxmms
media-plugins/xmms-cdaudio
media-plugins/xmms-mpg123
media-plugins/xmms-opengl-spectrum
media-plugins/xmms-vorbis
media-plugins/xmms-alsa
media-plugins/xmms-blur-scope
media-plugins/xmms-disk-writer
media-plugins/xmms-echo
media-plugins/xmms-esd
media-plugins/xmms-joystick
media-plugins/xmms-mikmod
media-plugins/xmms-oss
media-plugins/xmms-sanalyzer
media-plugins/xmms-song-change
media-plugins/xmms-stereo
media-plugins/xmms-tonegen
media-plugins/xmms-voice
media-plugins/xmms-wav
# This is an extra one
media-sound/noxmms
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 22:44 [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2006-10-23 9:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
@ 2006-10-23 14:08 ` Michael Cummings
2006-10-23 14:16 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-29 18:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
4 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Michael Cummings @ 2006-10-23 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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While masking, did you also correct any ebuilds you might have affected
that depended on those packages? Not trying to be rude or bitter, just
making sure everything was covered (since the perl component is a dep of
another package or 2).
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 00:44 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the
> tree.
>
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
>
> dev-perl/Xmms-Perl
> dev-python/pyxmms
> gnome-extra/gxmms
> media-plugins/dumb-xmms
> media-plugins/efxmms
> media-plugins/eq-xmms
> media-plugins/modplugxmms
> media-plugins/xalbumlist
> media-plugins/xmmplayer
> media-plugins/xmms-adplug
> media-plugins/xmms-alarm
> media-plugins/xmms-arts
> media-plugins/xmms-blursk
> media-plugins/xmms-btexmms
> media-plugins/xmms-cdcover
> media-plugins/xmms-cdread
> media-plugins/xmms-coverviewer
> media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
> media-plugins/xmms-crystality
> media-plugins/xmms-dflowers
> media-plugins/xmms-dscope
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectogram
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectral
> media-plugins/xmms-extra
> media-plugins/xmms-fc
> media-plugins/xmms-find
> media-plugins/xmms-finespectrum
> media-plugins/xmms-fmradio
> media-plugins/xmms-gdancer
> media-plugins/xmms-goom
> media-plugins/xmms-idcin
> media-plugins/xmms-imms
> media-plugins/xmms-infinity
> media-plugins/xmms-infopipe
> media-plugins/xmms-iris
> media-plugins/xmms-itouch
> media-plugins/xmms-jack
> media-plugins/xmms-jess
> media-plugins/xmms-kde
> media-plugins/xmms-kjofol
> media-plugins/xmms-ladspa
> media-plugins/xmms-libvisual
> media-plugins/xmms-lirc
> media-plugins/xmms-liveice
> media-plugins/xmms-liveplugin
> media-plugins/xmms-lyrc
> media-plugins/xmms-mad
> media-plugins/xmms-midi
> media-plugins/xmms-morestate
> media-plugins/xmms-mp3cue
> media-plugins/xmms-musepack
> media-plugins/xmms-nas
> media-plugins/xmms-nebulus
> media-plugins/xmms-null
> media-plugins/xmms-oggre
> media-plugins/xmms-outpost
> media-plugins/xmms-pipe
> media-plugins/xmms-realrandom
> media-plugins/xmms-repeatit
> media-plugins/xmms-scrobbler
> media-plugins/xmms-shell
> media-plugins/xmms-shn
> media-plugins/xmms-sid
> media-plugins/xmms-smpeg
> media-plugins/xmms-sndfile
> media-plugins/xmms-spc
> media-plugins/xmms-speex
> media-plugins/xmms-tfmx
> media-plugins/xmms-volnorm
> media-plugins/xmms-wakeup
> media-plugins/xmms-wma
> media-plugins/xmms-wmdiscotux
> media-plugins/xmms-xf86audio
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsd
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsmplayer
> media-sound/ctrlxmms
> media-sound/longplayer
> media-sound/madman
> media-sound/xmms
> x11-plugins/gaim-xmms-remote
> x11-themes/xmms-themes
>
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
>
> Yes this is long overdue...
>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-23 14:08 ` Michael Cummings
@ 2006-10-23 14:16 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-23 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
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From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-10-23 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Monday 23 October 2006 16:08, Michael Cummings wrote:
> While masking, did you also correct any ebuilds you might have affected
> that depended on those packages? Not trying to be rude or bitter, just
> making sure everything was covered (since the perl component is a dep of
> another package or 2).
Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a check for
me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the packages on the
first run was pretty impossible -considering also there are packages with
unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll mask and notify about
anything else that might come up as soona s they can give me the data.
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-23 14:16 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
@ 2006-10-23 15:26 ` Duncan
2006-10-23 16:58 ` Mike Bonar
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2006-10-23 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
"Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes@gentoo.org> posted
200610231616.50546@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:
> Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
> check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
> packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
> are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
> mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
> can give me the data.
>
>
I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
visualizations, is it? It'd be nice...
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-23 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
@ 2006-10-23 16:58 ` Mike Bonar
2006-10-23 17:04 ` Alec Warner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Mike Bonar @ 2006-10-23 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On Monday 23 October 2006 10:26, Duncan wrote:
> "Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes@gentoo.org> posted
> 200610231616.50546@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
>
> Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:
> > Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
> > check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
> > packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
> > are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
> > mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
> > can give me the data.
>
> I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
> visualizations, is it? It'd be nice...
>
> --
> Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
Removing xmms breaks amarok, at least for me. I had to recompile xine-lib
without the xmms use flag to get amarok to play music again.
Glide
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-23 16:58 ` Mike Bonar
@ 2006-10-23 17:04 ` Alec Warner
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alec Warner @ 2006-10-23 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Mike Bonar wrote:
> On Monday 23 October 2006 10:26, Duncan wrote:
>> "Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes@gentoo.org> posted
>> 200610231616.50546@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
>>
>> Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:
>>> Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
>>> check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
>>> packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
>>> are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
>>> mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
>>> can give me the data.
>> I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
>> visualizations, is it? It'd be nice...
>>
>> --
>> Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>> and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
> Removing xmms breaks amarok, at least for me. I had to recompile xine-lib
> without the xmms use flag to get amarok to play music again.
>
> Glide
Yes that will happen in many situations; anything that depends on xmms
libs will need to be rebuilt without them ;)
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS
2006-10-22 22:44 [gentoo-dev] Last rites for XMMS Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2006-10-23 14:08 ` Michael Cummings
@ 2006-10-29 18:30 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
4 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-10-29 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Monday 23 October 2006 00:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
xfce-extra/xfce4-xmms
xfce-extra/xfce4-xmms-controller
These two were not depending on xmms but won't build without it, also masked
pending removal.
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