From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GXgbU-00044E-R2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:06:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9BG5Boc019970; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:05:11 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9BG1aNn013045 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:01:37 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B6264530 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:01:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.56 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JvCkrqf2zVb9 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9128D64949 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GXgU1-0007fv-Hd for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:59:02 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:59:01 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:59:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1160056361.6289.17.camel@party.homenetwork> <45251647.8080307@gentoo.org> <1160058754.6289.21.camel@party.homenetwork> <45251B7E.9020500@gentoo.org> <45255F73.5000007@gentoo.org> <45256BE9.9030601@gentoo.org> <45260819.7040203@gentoo.org> <1160143601.10578.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <20061009101111.6fb6f65f@localhost> <452A0A80.4080407@gentoo.org> <1160398042.10496.16.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1160419368.6362.5.camel@party.homenetwork> <1160423118l.10540l.4l@spike> <1160431074.6362.9.camel@party.homenetwork> <452BB22D.30106@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: pan 0.115 (Mrs. Kerr Says Remember the Tip Jar) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: dafbc1e0-e0a6-4040-8099-3fe4cff7c35c X-Archives-Hash: 3a746779f41a866c8e8c107431a9249e Paul de Vrieze posted 452BB22D.30106@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:46:05 +0200: > A couple of years ago (when we were still using gcc-2.95 I used to run > gentoo on my server machine which was a pentium-60 (with fdiv bug). While > it took a while to compile the bigger packages it was certainly workable. > I did it because I didn't have a better machine, not to be able to say I > did it. Well yes, except that I'd guess that was a bit more than a couple of years ago (I've been on Gentoo since 2004.0/2004.1, and IIRC it was gcc-3.3 then, so 2.95 would have been what, at least three years ago??). That means the archs are a third(-ish) of a decade further out of date than they were then. That's a significant amount of time in computer terms. Anyway, not supported doesn't mean can't do it. As I suggested in a different reply, it could and would likely still be done, just as Gentoo based systems are run on all sorts of stuff according to embedded, and in fact they may choose to continue some support, as I believe pentium-class embedded is quite popular. Not supported just means less frequent install media or bootstrapping from other distributions instead of Gentoo install media, and that bugs can be closed if desired and appropriate, based on that alone. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list