From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-17600-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1GXEg3-0007C8-Im for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:17:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9AAGcMZ014867; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:16:38 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9AAElle008072 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:14:48 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085B764817 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:14:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.559 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yoa2yvkfkgmL for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C6064792 for <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GXEco-0005BW-F5 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:14:15 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:14:14 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:14:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <egfrok$maa$3@sea.gmane.org> References: <1160056361.6289.17.camel@party.homenetwork> <45251647.8080307@gentoo.org> <1160058754.6289.21.camel@party.homenetwork> <45251B7E.9020500@gentoo.org> <45255F73.5000007@gentoo.org> <45256BE9.9030601@gentoo.org> <45260819.7040203@gentoo.org> <1160143601.10578.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <20061009101111.6fb6f65f@localhost> <452A0A80.4080407@gentoo.org> <1160398042.10496.16.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1160419368.6362.5.camel@party.homenetwork> <1160423118l.10540l.4l@spike> <1160431074.6362.9.camel@party.homenetwork> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: pan 0.115 (Mrs. Kerr Says Remember the Tip Jar) Sender: news <news@sea.gmane.org> X-Archives-Salt: 5c1b5fc4-27d1-4eb3-bc9c-890b71794829 X-Archives-Hash: 79a0f620c836dcb6032ae1af96c6a426 Peter Weber <peterle@hottemptation.org> posted 1160431074.6362.9.camel@party.homenetwork, excerpted below, on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:57:54 +0200: > It was only a suggestion, not a decision. Of course, there are only a > little number of this early systems. > i686 would be really nice, i386 would be nice, too ;-) Anybody doing Gentoo on even a Pentium original is going to be compiling for awhile unless they do GRP only, and that's inadvised as GRP isn't security updated until the next release, six months later! A couple years ago when I first started with Gentoo and was on the main user list, I believe I saw a thread where a couple folks claimed to have done it on 486 mainly to be able to say they'd done so, taking weeks of course to do it, even compiling 24/7, but a 386? IMO there are better ways to spend your years... <g> Personally, I'd say 686 is the lowest reasonable to support at this point. Below that, try an appropriate binary distribution and save the days/weeks of compiling. Of course, Gentoo is highly customizable, and folks could try it on 386 if they wanted, but I don't believe it's worth supporting below 686 at this point. That's personally. I'm sure there are folks that would argue we should at least support 586, but I simply don't believe it's worth it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list