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Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= <chithanh@gentoo.org> References: <20180909143221.21d784d02f51623e8c57c545@gentoo.org> <1536510660.863.9.camel@gentoo.org> <ff5331b1-eb52-34eb-95f8-9b124019b809@gentoo.org> <20180910074539.GA6512@baraddur.perfinion.com> <0d8b7f02-9c38-969c-413b-69d4dee6ca89@gentoo.org> <CAEdQ38GfSjoKmn2jZgA-j8dxXESxe_hxu-bovSKgo6yonrR9bQ@mail.gmail.com> <1894d141-88e0-602f-88ea-2457b9ec4625@gentoo.org> <edf44f5b-fc0f-dc73-80af-1dd4d3a89988@gentoo.org> <b6aa9f23-869a-0a95-0c0c-d51b1c4f9a9f@gentoo.org> From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@gentoo.org> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=k_f@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEdj//4BEAC3zjKRryW1mLec38x0w9ByG50h6KJddkZe3UNdGhAa3S5E4NAi/fUoe3gD LUDDmpHZNqtbMgrobwUNjLrp+PDZNdMJFAnbWXvmsMwuax0SWJzy4alem34tvir3a2PpnVr9 ylyAyxPChMM0ANelT/fiYIEysjAbHXjri89qdT+yA16CMljoun7vIOmq7ohKdNd1Dci6qoyj 0NllvR2AiBI+ZJnoF4hkRKO1PNUJROzn/ku88idaNkWyq7rREI+WkhS+K6xg1R/d6mTp+bHP tmwGlN4U1Lgx9qeitYzirkQeA8EGK/EEPPZG85WvXSrTftoPvQswOtW7I+jkTdd30GHXf6JH Rq4oR0mT65mqckycPjXNw6RM0fxyx06/kbVG8x3tzc3roJF+hR+h5QWIWsQOc3ZAhbJPWnfP D/kEN20yvb6EXWha+70QJbrBsnN0M8MLF7x+ZWTKESOVpshUBG67iq/FWCpv3st2VTq4M0Ep b/ORIKlfEgSsGv6waooF0ik41ey3k6PIcuHTq/sCoFoC6EH75wqsbmLkVSyqTKm3MSjlN26d ei425iCXJSyH0L1WmeS0i0rzcF5BCu9V280DmNFHWkr4iHiyrVcNyccocMTeh6/ZG7XSI0wc TONVNnKtofVHkzwHMdDlDx4lFRG+V0ftimR5THlxtG8AzQKY9QARAQABzUJLcmlzdGlhbiBG aXNrZXJzdHJhbmQgPGtyaXN0aWFuLmZpc2tlcnN0cmFuZEBzdW1wdHVvdXNjYXBpdGFsLmNv bT7CwX8EEwEIACkCGwMCHgECF4ACGQEFCwkIBwMEFQoJCAUWAgMBAAUCWiWhXAUJFMX2sgAK CRALf4tg4+364/YeEACSDL8stCAArMoqgXlTAdAKQFedJHyoS2QFVzuLx+k7CCGt0jVrNh3d HRQ92pF2QJScWKw76/LHvh6lMBPJwBEXRIvQNDNUb/zyBx96FipC+Dkd8Fxu3s4W+6YCqUBa lmC5XKB6uF/W5wanvpAn1K8bvUb3sq86RYTD0qZui4LMhvm8A0A1Na4+ZeGyfBFhcH5Oh+nh wkZjL7mbMTe25QCeCs4wQpYowia70EZLcQF4MboF9GzH5PIb0ipG5Jtfk9QfSlT+bnkRL1KR DR6rHo7iAYcMt4oJVU1qo1akSBe0MsMI37OdWDtNvUy2Svd2BCLZl49KZnErleC3R/axrtkL 2w1f0P4FoiuPq7mPeiUBhLaZLlc2fz490cEwjsgsY6GuiCWlbyjBMtp0OKM4VBqt5tdxBo/R X5Y6kNOGWpDHx8D+Dl8ToTDJuH2I0k2wfcUibYzWfwXpPpwZ5iXidwLYXbBQ2qqlyB7MP3Po z3zl+UulJyxIYGjg2sO4FmmRs0tThceaNIiDtP5uPLu77oCkAAsWuFSfa6Iwq9+PIQTqTFhH nJ1v/xrdqKWSYB6tm9Tkb0KkUKxFhc7QVyphvh473UEAQ78bQFWrGHqiejQtiiR3MOubwUyt YkNi+ef068rs27SPfRmBAvRw2EMZWhWyX/P2xM4PPp24reOn4ZuAAM7ATQRVZfyNAQgAvppy gWUI21WpA8IZZC+HXywKOqAIXgEQG8m62kVE048A8gjwk8vcmDKU0vlD6OGZ0capeWzWK5kN Gi8kl4ejvgULXKQCAV8ycEUWXmBSmzabhGruMY96Hy1OILc9tb3Wpg3wggW+PZjc5IuLIa1k 9AiDg6SQExDhC27x1EUKZkxkIG+EThSKHbCFB3t4tbwlI8Na4LUfjOxCILA2KVl7CXD/eUNr apJeSGJOtYEhgNFhuHoSG7Po9k6cy2eRrviq9X9cEW10Y3ocCypKvenuUjrN4bUd0IUsODLy cZ3aL+zEmIdhZsG7dQeFmFeJKK+XDgLIMNgr+EP9+89U/COZ5QARAQABwsFlBBgBCAAPAhsM BQJaJaF0BQkGw/ojAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjgbYQAIYDkXvyczRVnEZloYQbHsqjGwekWXTkTk74 yYF5U+GoGGzbdFAmF2FhhWxlwIoPLtWoUXmdBknyqtAHCIlYrqPi0fsY6SdIU3qdDDESjR9g ixoPKOP5pFRC3KsPn0MNUXElbkdHvn0YSjuj0GdBi8YUa1XGRNW/O8PH4HP900OipflQhuEC 3yI5AYiq+Grd80RzJg8F108bn8YmoHapV5zZGfzp5L3pHCNOGsBlpTDrQA3XvlKti3AujaF8 8Nq3tj5kTsj73I30WOctGH3d9QWdySuK5RekAYvMSHU7M9oHtwV9dfVdRFbbuP4fhf+yF56S yu0k7jGe8e0d1xshwOMIXu8/3z4hYOpPfAvkl7n3QNHeqtT1KwRYqCCwKeK8pKZZlsBJ3D6X PuEZyTc/JIiZr8yALslTYubCCNyYQj7fByxM7neVPPaciNhbkGHImwfJGPBSEuP/UXciroUc rvwwGfY76+WvezaU+O3SLcrT9i+emo9uA14Syb51RWz8h/x55Yu2UpONhArhearvW+0kJBx/ YzG0Us7TLMNAiiQYlGibMmaBgRWW33vMXWT9H3FIN8L1NI/Qvy3/N0zDHawUOUvVMNtAzbWe xFtxXQ7zyxLUBHHhFdezpWyXmm71qEaOMdDLnTwLqv3ENHUfZzmCc2KtZjTX0qrgBQD08nPn Message-ID: <eec2dc3e-8328-2c64-aa63-02d8f4896ead@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:41:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <b6aa9f23-869a-0a95-0c0c-d51b1c4f9a9f@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wJB84097qy4YJE2x54qNSj2aj7iOMpeOq" X-Archives-Salt: 6d0f6de9-051a-4f9c-a81f-f073052b40fc X-Archives-Hash: dcf10136669eba2c0f0938c40e4c5cc7 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wJB84097qy4YJE2x54qNSj2aj7iOMpeOq Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8KilaMANuSuaYfUYi3tTSAhuS2JF0g0Hl"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@gentoo.org> Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= <chithanh@gentoo.org> Message-ID: <eec2dc3e-8328-2c64-aa63-02d8f4896ead@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror References: <20180909143221.21d784d02f51623e8c57c545@gentoo.org> <1536510660.863.9.camel@gentoo.org> <ff5331b1-eb52-34eb-95f8-9b124019b809@gentoo.org> <20180910074539.GA6512@baraddur.perfinion.com> <0d8b7f02-9c38-969c-413b-69d4dee6ca89@gentoo.org> <CAEdQ38GfSjoKmn2jZgA-j8dxXESxe_hxu-bovSKgo6yonrR9bQ@mail.gmail.com> <1894d141-88e0-602f-88ea-2457b9ec4625@gentoo.org> <edf44f5b-fc0f-dc73-80af-1dd4d3a89988@gentoo.org> <b6aa9f23-869a-0a95-0c0c-d51b1c4f9a9f@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <b6aa9f23-869a-0a95-0c0c-d51b1c4f9a9f@gentoo.org> --8KilaMANuSuaYfUYi3tTSAhuS2JF0g0Hl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/10/18 11:35 PM, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n wrote: >=20 > I fully understand why in the general case this is considered undesirab= le. >=20 > But in very specific cases it can make sense to err on the side of > caution, and the rigid -Werror policy gets in the way. This is what the= > initial message by bircoph suggested. I would argue that this depends on the upstream; some upstreams doesn't know the downstream implications of this and are slow at responding at issues. Others are very clear about it and this is the desired behavior; and they actually fix it quickly when reported. There is a difference here, and on some level that is up to maintainer privilege to evaluate the difference. --=20 Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 --8KilaMANuSuaYfUYi3tTSAhuS2JF0g0Hl-- --wJB84097qy4YJE2x54qNSj2aj7iOMpeOq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEtOrRIMf4mkrqRycHJQt6/tY3nYUFAluW5QAACgkQJQt6/tY3 nYUj3Af/bg4Sq7bH48N3m86+KKsraBn3VXlDlBLKrGg6QqY2FQsE+ComzJnO2wm0 Z9y3m8e4XbB0kqukYq1EdppPTsrymZhkWklp/jJEi8PFPEvVpV2ewjJjrg0qOESB zA+bdM1dmFGGyqryStVGG1sCQbFxv3fPEKxRhAWPa7Dx1j6wvR8v8BsR5m1PBrPx cu+cav4gweOeVy5fdvwkOH68Y5lIiN3pqMJ6th/0vZzxspHDokZeO8ivfteBF9EJ cYiSywfz3zma051XB3bjTnbrinDwxG/TqmJLEIDw1hNqUveLwHOWUWcn4qyDCIex HsX4D6J0X9Z8N1Hyh5DcJAV1K2/mag== =7xrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wJB84097qy4YJE2x54qNSj2aj7iOMpeOq--