From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Paid support
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:06:00 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <edti3o$9th$3@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4502320A.2070402@gentoo.org
Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> posted 4502320A.2070402@gentoo.org,
excerpted below, on Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:16:26 -0700:
> Curtis Napier wrote:
>> Giving ad space to our sponsors is legal for us to do as a Not For
>> Profit because they are donating goods and/or services to us.
>> Technically we are not giving them "ads", we are acknowledging the
>> donated goods and/or services. Just like PBS does at the beginning of
>> it's shows, they aren't ads but acknowledgments of donations.
>>
>> Basically I just want to make sure that we are not breaking any of the
>> rules of being a Not For Profit foundation. The IRS doesn't accept "We
>> didn't know any better" as an excuse when they come knocking on our door
>> to re-evaluate our Not For Profit status because we are giving free
>> advertising to people who *ARE* being paid in a For Profit manner.
>
> You just made my point. THEY are being paid, not Gentoo. Gentoo receives
> no financial support from this, and Gentoo is not offering goods or
> services in return for money.
I see (and appreciate) his point tho. As you say, we /should/ be in the
clear. However, if we use the wrong language on the paid support setup
page, then the IRS /could/ find that the corporations are hiring Gentoo
developers in a quid-pro-quo of some sort, and that the Gentoo NFP is only
an attempt at an illegal tax shelter arrangement whereby Gentoo is just a
convenient way to arrange to pay someone more without them having to pay
taxes on it.
Consider this scenario. A company donates some equipment thru the
adopt-a-dev program, that ends up in the possession of someone they end up
contracting thru the paid support program as well. Depending on how it's
arranged, the sequence and timing, etc, it could look like the equipment
donation was payment in kind in ordered to hide the real value paid to
that developer, thus lowering his taxes. It could appear to be a tax
dodge.
As long as we get it right, no problem, but when the risk is loss of NFP
status and back taxes plus fines for non-payment, plus possible criminal
charges... Let's just say it's in everyone's interest to get it right the
first time around! It might cost a few hundred to get a professional
opinion on paper, but come an audit a couple years down the road, that
paper could save our ass!
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-02 10:34 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 11:04 ` Jakub Moc
2006-09-02 11:18 ` Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 12:26 ` The Age of the Universe (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1) Danny van Dyk
2006-09-02 13:36 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 13:44 ` Charlie
2006-09-02 13:48 ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-02 14:05 ` Edgar Hucek
2006-09-02 14:14 ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-02 15:53 ` Duncan
2006-09-03 7:41 ` Wiktor Wandachowicz
2006-09-03 11:29 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-09-03 11:51 ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-03 12:04 ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-03 19:31 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 20:20 ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-02 14:27 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-09-02 13:55 ` Mike Doty
2006-09-02 23:37 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-09-02 20:07 ` [gentoo-dev] Paid support Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-02 20:13 ` Mike Doty
2006-09-02 20:16 ` Aaron Kulbe
2006-09-02 20:40 ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-09-02 22:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 22:31 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-09-03 14:03 ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2006-09-05 10:40 ` Alastair Tse
2006-09-07 3:50 ` Curtis Napier
2006-09-07 14:03 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-09 3:12 ` Curtis Napier
2006-09-09 3:16 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-09 5:06 ` Duncan [this message]
2006-09-09 13:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-09 16:49 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-09-09 17:14 ` Jakub Moc
2006-09-09 19:03 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-10 4:23 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-09-10 4:37 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-09-10 0:52 ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-02 14:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe Jakub Moc
2006-09-02 22:16 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-02 22:42 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-09-03 10:28 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-03 13:02 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-09-03 13:13 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-09-03 5:11 ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-03 19:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 23:45 ` Ryan Hill
2006-09-02 13:59 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 Alec Warner
2006-09-02 21:55 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 22:29 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-09-02 23:14 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-02 23:23 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-09-03 14:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
[not found] ` <44FA15D1.2020209@gentoo.org>
2006-09-03 14:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 14:36 ` Alec Warner
2006-09-03 14:42 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-09-03 14:55 ` Alec Warner
2006-09-03 16:44 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 18:54 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-09-03 14:53 ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2006-09-03 16:40 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-09-03 19:43 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-03 21:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2006-09-03 19:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-02 11:12 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-09-02 20:36 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-09-03 19:11 ` Chris Gianelloni
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