From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJXrD-0008Nr-7a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:56:31 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k82FtjNA003406; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:55:45 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k82FrkAe022630 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:53:47 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EC3653C7 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07002-18 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F0165387 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GJXoR-0002l0-3L for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:53:39 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:53:39 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:53:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 15:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44F95E3E.9000708@gentoo.org> <44F96559.6010003@gentoo.org> <44F96881.90806@gentoo.org> <200609021426.03618.kugelfang@gentoo.org> <44F988FB.3070001@gentoo.org> <44F98BB5.5010402@gentoo.org> <44F98FAF.5020508@gentoo.org> <44F991D7.9060905@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: pan 0.110 (Beable Beable) Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.559 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 9492891f-4a54-4e01-99c4-50a1c0b739b8 X-Archives-Hash: ed87bb58be9cfdcf99974042325ed90d Simon Stelling posted 44F991D7.9060905@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:14:47 +0200: > Edgar Hucek wrote: >> I know my tools but not necessarly the normal user who wanna use gentoo >> and is ending frustrated. > > If the users are too lazy to read the documentation, why should we care > about them? Exactly. To such a "normal user", unwilling to invest the very real time and energy into learning about Gentoo and how to customize it to his wishes, most if not all Gentoo devs will be happy to recommend Ubuntu or whatever. Ubuntu is by all reports a very respectable distribution, arguably one of the most user friendly yet powerful out there. (Linspire/Freespire's probably the most user friendly, disregarding power.) Let Gentoo do what Gentoo does best, cater to those that /like/ that customizability, even, perhaps /because/ of, the challenge of mastering the machine and bending it to our will. There are plenty of other distributions out there for those that are more interested in just having it work, with as little knowledge and effort invested on their part as possible. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list