From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MxOMC-00079g-65 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:06:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40EE9E0818; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com (mail-bw0-f211.google.com [209.85.218.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61B0E0818 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so3402071bwz.34 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=39CxQ4Se1jrmEniS9BjETtTZfXivpwvvfQ2sytXHE5Y=; b=HVBS24Kb+15jfVe3BqnsvgpCVsISGqxvXIYiyvhty+XpjUpbukvOeUolN26wzBBA8h RgSImV1Y8Xc3bck4UktIJGsmQ3aQsfG4JzoLTcEGRYzAGyt87TrabPcj75NCR8BSnAhP mDt4owSse+0KGr2S2OWZh6eubb9/JXlziFeSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=E0DKS8Y53uxc78Zt32GsXhLH3Q/H+/IqVxU0jLjjrtorpSktHheH1mReg3zD9Oj0j0 Z9crD6IHwUZ/r3VmdYcublQ2NFngeR5Q6XBoFntrogEOZbg4XC2EX4jbXXmgGZ0sxKzf apnP7LS37iVyQn297Fjq6qvXuKE4WLNqAt11E= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.195 with SMTP id e3mr5308697bke.118.1255367206149; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <173442fb4ce538d8895eb52554f0b780@localhost> References: <20091012093942.08ef453a@dante> <173442fb4ce538d8895eb52554f0b780@localhost> From: Wyatt Epp Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Init systems portage category To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e950629e770475bff4fd X-Archives-Salt: e25cd8b1-ff2b-407b-b40b-516b2420675a X-Archives-Hash: 6e73055bf4841078b953f438ab659edc --00151750e950629e770475bff4fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/10/12 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero > But there's one... That what the "system" set is about in first place. W= e > could argue if creating a new category would be any good or not, that's a > different issue. But there's already a list of packages that's considered > critical for a Gentoo system. That's what "system" is, and you will get a > big red waning when trying to uninstall one package belonging to this > category. > > Seeing as we understand @system to be "critical for a functional Gentoo system", the phrase "critical packages" may have been poorly chosen for communicating the concept of "things that, should I be cavalier in playing with them, may leave me with a system that is incapable of playing again without intervention from one of those lovely LiveCD things". Nevertheless, there is a class of "packages that I need to watch out for, because they'll make my life miserable in ways X can only dream about and THEN stab me in the kidneys with a rusty javelin if I'm not careful" under discussion that could probably use some action. It's unfortunate that there's no good way of encoding arbitrary semantic metadata about a small set of packages such that it can be leveraged by various sources to achieve this end... Regards, Wyatt --00151750e950629e770475bff4fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2009/10/12 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero <i92guboj@terra.es><= br>
But there's one... That what the "system" set is = about in first place. We
could argue if creating a new category would be any good or not, that's= a
different issue. But there's already a list of packages that's cons= idered
critical for a Gentoo system. That's what "system" is, and yo= u will get a
big red waning when trying to uninstall one package belonging to this
category.
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Seeing as we understand @system to be "cri= tical for a functional Gentoo system", the phrase "critical packa= ges" may have been poorly chosen for communicating the concept of &quo= t;things that, should I be cavalier in playing with them, may leave me with= a system that is incapable of playing again without intervention from one = of those lovely LiveCD things".

Nevertheless, there is a class of "packages that I need to watch o= ut for, because they'll make my life miserable in ways X can only dream= about and THEN stab me in the kidneys with a rusty javelin if I'm not = careful" under discussion that could probably use some action.=C2=A0 I= t's unfortunate that there's no good way of encoding arbitrary sema= ntic metadata about a small set of packages such that it can be leveraged b= y various sources to achieve this end...

Regards,
Wyatt
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