From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7R57-0002mZ-3G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:16:49 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V6FHuQ008164; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:15:17 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V6B5uY015741 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:11:06 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A858644CB for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17055-03 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B81064362 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1G7QzO-0006J4-AG for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:10:54 +0200 Received: from static24-72-114-127.yorkton.accesscomm.ca ([24.72.114.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:10:54 +0200 Received: from dirtyepic.sk by static24-72-114-127.yorkton.accesscomm.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:10:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:10:52 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1154314231.11516.10.camel@localhost> <20060731040614.5ec4b176@snowdrop.home> <200607302332.28056.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> <20060731052751.0dc06ec2@snowdrop.home> <20060731063205.2c7e6cbe@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static24-72-114-127.yorkton.accesscomm.ca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) In-Reply-To: <20060731063205.2c7e6cbe@snowdrop.home> Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 65b90349-ea7a-41d3-99cb-6b39a2efa539 X-Archives-Hash: 16d535c1457167b288b6a63fb4a987eb Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:22:33 -0600 Ryan Hill > | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > Did you look at *which* actual Gentoo developers are on the list? > | > | You know, that was a completely unnecessary personal attack. God > | forbid anyone take the time to attempt something they think may be > | beneficial to the community. If you in all your elitist wisdom think > | you can do better then try helping out. If not, then please fuck off. > > Good intentions and trying to be helpful don't keep users or > developers. Screwups lose users and developers. > > Would you stick a bunch of war evacuees on a plane piloted by Britney > Spears if she said she was doing it because she wanted to be helpful? Britney Spears being the Sunrise Developers and the evacuees being.. a bunch of packages that have no relevance whatsoever since they're copies of ebuilds already in bugzilla? When Britney crashes and burns the ebuilds aren't vapourized into a fine red mist. If Sunrise bombs we're back to the status quo with nothing lost. > | > Even that aside, if a couple of hundred developers can't handle > | > doing QA for all those maintainer-wanted ebuilds, what makes you > | > think four people can? > | > | If a couple of hundred developers actually paid any attention > | whatsoever to maintainer-wanted ebuilds then there wouldn't have to > | be any such project in the first place. > > A couple of hundred developers can barely handle the main tree... True. Some of them want to focus on the nastier bits of it though. Why should we stop them? Hostility aside, do you have any alternate ideas? --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list