From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-40260-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Nvlbc-0006Rw-LS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:04:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B3A9E0795; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com (mail-pw0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A29E07EE for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj10 with SMTP id 10so6817170pwj.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: cardoe@cardoe.com Received: by 10.143.37.2 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:03:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BAE1C33.6060604@gentoo.org> References: <4BAE1C33.6060604@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:03:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b02a4057d6e78019 Received: by 10.142.152.5 with SMTP id z5mr1315461wfd.266.1269756223828; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <eafa4c131003272303s1a099f15k157f4b18f07b64c0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing ssl use flag descriptions and unify behavior From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c094bbd0-dbde-4ff7-b643-cbe8e0994bc9 X-Archives-Hash: 85e19cc9a56fbdf36683f3b14120dd0d On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Petteri R=C3=A4ty <betelgeuse@gentoo.org> = wrote: > See this thread for background: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_0673a33fe75961e510872fd2c1044ce= d.xml > > I think we should go through all the ssl use flag using packages and > unify the use flag descriptions and behavior to the following standing > policy (handed down probably): > > 1) packages always have the general ssl use flag to control whether to > =C2=A0 enable ssl at all > 2) If the package supports multiple backends then there's use flags for > =C2=A0 gnutls, openssl or nss. EAPI 2 use defaults will be used to > =C2=A0 communicate upstream defaults if any. If they are all turned of > =C2=A0 select the default (ssl being on). > > No objections and I will open a tracker a week from now and let's see > who joins up to go through packages and open bugs. > > Regards, > Petteri > > I seriously hate changing USE flags for the sake of changing use flags. This provides a moderate amount of annoyance for anyone that maintains more then one Gentoo box because they need to then tinker with their /etc/make.conf and /etc/portage/package.use to get everything right again. And oh no what if the one box is on ~arch and one isn't and what if one is x86 and one isn't. Its just such a configuration nightmare. So unless there's any real benefit, I'm against this. Also two little side points... USE defaults happened in EAPI 1. And the method by which you're asking people to select would be nice if we had some method for saying USE X and Y are subset of USE A. --=20 Doug Goldstein