From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NkBTV-0003bX-8Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:16:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 034C7E0AE4; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0FE0ADD for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C41B4416 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.972 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.972 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.627, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IIJW9nfMKEsA for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pv0-f177.google.com (mail-pv0-f177.google.com [74.125.83.177]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B121B4477 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pva18 with SMTP id 18so625504pva.36 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:15:27 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: cardoe@cardoe.com Received: by 10.142.122.24 with SMTP id u24mr1018878wfc.53.1266995727018; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:15:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:15:26 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ec020a37686ae59b Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pending mask of Qt3 and MythTV From: Doug Goldstein To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: d56c7514-a446-4713-a4d5-31b6a472b0a0 X-Archives-Hash: aa7a97cc94f3470c87e0c2c1a67a05ce On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Hi, > > As the Gentoo Qt team has announced six months ago, Qt3 is about to be > masked now (see bug 283429). We sent another mail with a timeline at > the end of December. Most of the issues surrounding the mask and > removal of Qt3 have been solved. But we see ourselves confronted with > one remaining issue: MythTV. Its current stable version uses Qt3, but > there is a Qt4 version in testing. In all this time the MythTV > maintainers have not taken any action. Incorrect. You came to me a few months ago and I told you I would not and will not have time to mess with the package at all. I think I've made that clear in past mailing list posts, discussions we've had, and on bugzilla. Many people have spoken up about the situation and time and time again I've said "please, take over the package. It needs to be stabilized and a new unstable bump needs to happen." You took one of those times to create a ticket saying you'd stabilize it, then deferred to me and the arch teams. My response was the arch teams haven't stabilized MythTV in years because none of them have a setup to test it, so please stabilize it. I'm running it on a stable machine. I do not have my Gentoo commit machine up and running right now. I've only got my MythTV machines running x86 and amd64 with MythTV running ~arch for a while now. So I ask you once again, PLEASE just mark it stable. SOMEONE. And quit accusing anyone of inaction. As far as the news item goes, as I've said before. Its completely unnecessary since MythTV will handle notifying you properly if you need to do anything to your database. I can count more than a dozen people on Gentoo that have successfully done the conversion without issue. The problem stems from people either not reading the instructions when MythTV tells them they need to take action and read the update guide. Or people stupidly reading the upgrade guide, thinking "oh I'll upgrade my DB early" and upgrading their DB and then running their old version. A news item will probably do more harm than good and will result in a lot of partial corruptions, which we already have one person on the bug you guys made for the news item already doing. -- Doug Goldstein