From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N9ufn-00020j-Vb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:02:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C1B8E090B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE7E0739 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so3293489pwi.26 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:50:44 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: cardoe@cardoe.com Received: by 10.142.2.9 with SMTP id 9mr754845wfb.39.1258347044625; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:50:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4AFFACF9.6000905@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:50:44 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b6bd5dd041a04239 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27 Bump From: Doug Goldstein To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d96a8db2-30ba-4873-a0dd-9e39de9a13d1 X-Archives-Hash: 170ac3f3aa774a9896ee8ae0756431fa On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrot= e: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 09:25:45AM +0200, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: >> Doug Goldstein wrote: >> > GLEP 27 [1] seems pretty stagnant and I'm planning on giving it a bit >> > of a refresh and actually implementing it. Now before I do this I'm >> > not in love with the format in tree but I haven't decided on a format >> > exactly in my head. So that being said, I'm sending this out looking >> > for some opinions or ideas for my new GLEP. One of the obvious things >> > I'll cover is all the ambiguity of the GLEP with regard to the data >> > inside each of the files. >> > >> > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html >> One idea worth considering is making users just ebuilds with a >> supporting eclass. > While I'm hugely in favour of having consistent UID/GIDs with no > conflicts over all Gentoo machines, I feel one of the reasons that the > GLEP failed was that users required by ebuilds changed over ebuild > versions, and the GLEP didn't seem to handle that well. > > Cases I've seen in the tree: > - username change (slocate -> locate) > - homedir change > - shell change > Which would seem to mean that Petteri's suggestion would work better since that would allow us to version/upgrade user/group data. --=20 Doug Goldstein