[gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Lars Weiler]

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Hi devs,

I would like to discuss the handling of the LINGUAS
variable.  Currently we have a couple of packages which
support this variable, with OpenOffice, kde-i18n and
mozilla-* as those with the most supported settings.

As the PowerPC-team still support a packages-CD with
pre-compiled packages based on the Gentoo Reference
Platform, I want to provide applications with pre-built
translations.  So I set a quite large environment
LINGUAS-variable with the most common languages:

LINGUAS="en ar de en_GB en_US es fr it jp nl pl pt pt_BR ru
zh_CN zh_TW" ¹

I came until building kde-i18n, then the process died.
That's caused by the kde-i18n ebuild which tests the given
LINGUAS and dies when there is no or an unsupported language
set.  For instance, kde-i18n does not support "en", but
"en_GB", Openoffice supports "en", "en_GB" and "en_US".  But
when I omit "en" in my LINGUAS, some other packages will not
install this language -- and I guess you don't want your
FireFox in Arabic or German ;-)

I propose that package-maintainers should check and fix
their ebuilds, that they do not fail on unsupported given
LINGUAS-settings.  Just strip them and continue the
installation.

Comments?

Regards, Lars

¹) firefox and thunderbird set the first given language as
default; on the 2006.1-release I ordered a smaller list
alphabetically and so both applications showed a German menu
(as de was the first set language) on their first start.
Later on I added "ar" (Arabic) to the list and I had, guess,
everything switched from the left to the right with
interesting ornaments in between…

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Gentoo Infrastructure   : CVS Administrator

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Jakub Moc]

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Lars Weiler napsal(a):
> I came until building kde-i18n, then the process died.
> That's caused by the kde-i18n ebuild which tests the given
> LINGUAS and dies when there is no or an unsupported language
> set.  For instance, kde-i18n does not support "en", but
> "en_GB", Openoffice supports "en", "en_GB" and "en_US".  But
> when I omit "en" in my LINGUAS, some other packages will not
> install this language -- and I guess you don't want your
> FireFox in Arabic or German ;-)

Already fixed...

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/kde-base/kde-i18n/kde-i18n-3.5.5.ebuild?r1=1.14&r2=1.15



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Lars Weiler]

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* Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org> [06/12/11 00:39 +0100]:
> Already fixed...

Well, okay, that is for kde-i18n ;-)  My last sync was from
Sunday afternoon CET...

Thanks and regards, Lars

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Sunday 10 December 2006 18:32, Lars Weiler wrote:
> For instance, kde-i18n does not support "en", but
> "en_GB", Openoffice supports "en", "en_GB" and "en_US".  But
> when I omit "en" in my LINGUAS, some other packages will not
> install this language

so set your LINGUAS to "... en en_US en_GB ..." and you're done
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

There are quite a few more packages (under the kde herd) that provide
the linguistic functionality. The only difference with those and
kde-i18n is that english is enforced and cannot be stripped off from
those packages.

The kde-i18n death message was added because kde-meta had to pull it
as well. Then we noticed that it was bringing problems with the
english locale, no locales or unsupported locales. There were various
proposed solutions, as you can see in bug #137297. We opted to remove
the death message and show a notice in the cases where there was no
LINGUAS defined or the provided locale set was unsupported. IMHO,
forcing LINGUAS into make.conf isn't a clean solution.

On 12/11/06, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 10 December 2006 18:32, Lars Weiler wrote:
> > For instance, kde-i18n does not support "en", but
> > "en_GB", Openoffice supports "en", "en_GB" and "en_US".  But
> > when I omit "en" in my LINGUAS, some other packages will not
> > install this language
>
> so set your LINGUAS to "... en en_US en_GB ..." and you're done
> -mike
>
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[foser]

I recently ran into a similar issue regarding font ebuilds using LINGUAS
to select fonts to install (see acroread-asianfonts). I personally think
this is not the way to go, since LINGUAS is about language, not script,
support. Any comments on that issue ?

- foser

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of LINGUAS

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

I'd rather use a local USE flag for that. As you say, LINGUAS is for
language control.

On 12/13/06, foser <foser@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I recently ran into a similar issue regarding font ebuilds using LINGUAS
> to select fonts to install (see acroread-asianfonts). I personally think
> this is not the way to go, since LINGUAS is about language, not script,
> support. Any comments on that issue ?
>
> - foser
>
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>
>


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