From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NnUgF-0000Tx-3z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:22:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E27C8E0DF2; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C060EE0C72 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC381B40D4 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so2076246wwi.40 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:22:38 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.143 with SMTP id u15mr483079wee.205.1267784558218; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:22:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100305021444.768724e6@angelstorm> References: <201003041923.17749.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <20100305002545.499ac845@angelstorm> <20100305014122.1f616392@angelstorm> <20100305021444.768724e6@angelstorm> From: Dirkjan Ochtman Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 79202c1d-992a-413b-9533-6071f6515ea2 X-Archives-Hash: 2e6bda7d081bf54bb0e749b546926542 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:14, Joshua Saddler wrote: > Aaaand none of my packages that are installed "want" to use it. That's wh= at I'm sayin'. Maybe if I ran ~arch they'd ask for Python 3.x, but I run st= able, so *nothing* wants to use it. Every other stable user is in the same = situation. You seem to be ignoring us, the stable users, in favor of rushin= g 3.x out of ~arch, like that makes some kind of perceived problem go away. I *am* a stable user, and I do want to install python3 (without having to override keywords -- because my packager, the gentoo python team, says it works!). I recognize the cruft problem, but I don't think keeping things in unstable is the right solution for solving it, because they should IMO be orthogonal. > Yet that's the net effect -- everyone *will* have it installed. . . unles= s folks start getting crafty with pseudo version ranges, as Zac mentioned. I guess we'll have to do that then. Cheers, Dirkjan