From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FwQQh-0000pP-Bk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:21:35 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5ULICft018053; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:18:12 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5ULATXJ028998 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:10:30 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3820C6464D for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11556-14 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA5E64142 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FwQFh-0004Ij-CY for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:10:13 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:10:13 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:10:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: GPL and Source code providing Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44A24A29.2080402@alpha.spugium.net> <44A29DC2.4030608@alpha.spugium.net> <1151509368.2774.18.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <200606281854.05036@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <44A2DD29.9020206@gentoo.org> <1151529396.2774.25.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-209.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: pan 0.101 ("A pulse of dying power in a clenching plastic fist.") Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.561 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 4c3f5a82-e152-44cc-80bc-eba51ebb8c36 X-Archives-Hash: ee1368ab9cf7822931346d2ee64965a6 Chris Gianelloni posted 1151529396.2774.25.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net, excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:16:35 -0400: > After all, we're still "shipping" 1.2 ISO images under /historical, and I > can guarantee you that the source code for all of this stuff isn't > available from us. > > We will need to work on compliance ourselves with this, before the FSF > comes knocking on our door. Good point. Do note, however, that Gentoo is in better shape here than most, since only the actual binaries on the CD are at issue. That's far less source to worry about than most distributions, with /everything/ as binary, must worry about. We /do/ need to worry about the packages CDs, however. That's a lot of source to manage there, and I'd say much more likely to be at risk than the mostly fairly core (and therefore likely still widely available sources, tho we /will/ need to ensure we make the sources available ourselves) stuff on the LiveCD itself. For that reason, I'd suggest ceasing to distribute the packages CD ISOs 30 days after the next release is available, thereby limiting at least the general source requirements of the packages CD to a narrower timeslot, even if the far more limited source requirements of the LiveCD are allowed to continue somewhat longer, I'd suggest 30 days after the /second/ release. As for the sources themselves, the mirrors should hopefully have the current versions, at least. Whether we keep previous LiveCD (and packages CD if we continue to distribute it) sources on-mirror or on an archive repository setup for the purpose could be debated, tho I'd suggest the archive repository, so the mirrors don't have to carry it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list