Re: [gentoo-dev] 2024-02-26-debianutils-drops-installkernel-dep: add news item v2

[Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan <andrewammerlaan@gentoo.org>]

On 27/02/2024 18:24, Hank Leininger wrote:
> On 2024-02-27, andrewammerlaan wrote:
> 
>> Until recently, sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by
>> app-misc/ca-certificates, an essential package installed on many
>> systems. This is no longer the case.[2]. As a result many users may find
>> that sys-apps/debianutils and therefore sys-kernel/installkernel are no
>> longer part of the dependency graph and will therefore be cleaned up by
>> "emerge --depclean".
> 
> Sorry for speaking up late: I (mis)read the second sentence differently
> from others in this thread, apparently.
> 
> "This is no longer the case." might apply to the first part of the
> previous sentence, "was in turn pulled in by".
> 
> Or it might apply to the second part, "an essential package installed on
> many systems."
> 
> I think what's meant is the former, it is no longer pulled in. But
> someone reading this cold could be forgiven for reading that as
> "ca-certificates is no longer an essential package".
> 
> Unfortunately my recommendation would be to restore the mention of a
> dependency, in some form or fashion, which seems to be something that
> was removed due to earlier feedback in this thread.
> 
> Maybe:
> 
> Until recently, sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by
> app-misc/ca-certificates, an essential package installed on many
> systems. That package no longer depends on sys-apps/debianutils.  As a
> result many users may find that sys-apps/debianutils and therefore
> sys-kernel/installkernel are no longer part of the dependency graph and
> will therefore be cleaned up by "emerge --depclean".

I rewrote this paragraph like this:

Until recently, sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by
app-misc/ca-certificates, an essential package installed on many
systems. However, this dependency of app-misc/ca-certificates on
sys-apps/debianutils was removed[2]. As a result many users may find
that sys-apps/debianutils and therefore sys-kernel/installkernel are no
longer part of the dependency graph and will therefore be cleaned up by
"emerge --depclean".

I think this way it should be very clear what has changed to cause the 
problem.

Best regards,
Andrew