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boundary="7X3u93K9L3trLmYdmpqDryJHrxKKFdfZQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Thomas Deutschmann To: gentoo development Message-ID: Subject: act-{user,group} & RDEPEND --7X3u93K9L3trLmYdmpqDryJHrxKKFdfZQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, most packages are putting acct-{user,group}/* dependencies into RDEPEND. What about packages using tmpfiles eclass and installing tmpfiles which will make use of acct-{user,group}/* depedencies? I.e. dev-db/mysql-init-scripts will install "/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/mysql.conf" with the following content: > d /var/run/mysqld 0755 mysql mysql - The package is a requirement for all dev-db/{mysql,mariadb,percona-server} packages because it will provide runscript/services. To be able to start your chosen database server right after installation, we trigger tmpfiles service in pkg_postinst via tmpfiles_process(). Therefore, mysql user and group provided by acct-{user,group}/mysql must be merged *before* tmpfiles_process() will be called or "/var/run/mysqld" will be created as root:root which will prevent your favorite database server to start. However, devmanual (https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/) says: > Items which are in RDEPEND but not DEPEND could in theory be merged > after the target package. Portage does not currently do this. So don't we have a conceptual problem here and are just lucky that current used PMs don't do at the moment what specification will allow them to do? Moving to (B)DEPEND will address the problem for non-binary package users only. --=20 Regards, Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5 --7X3u93K9L3trLmYdmpqDryJHrxKKFdfZQ-- --gmnEn01PkfdyBa5RrdakTMIdcIDU145BC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEEExKRzo+LDXJgXHuURObr3Jv2BVkFAl1mmU5fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDEz MTI5MUNFOEY4QjBENzI2MDVDN0I5NDQ0RTZFQkRDOUJGNjA1NTkACgkQRObr3Jv2 BVnbowf+M+jNiwxSkq+ikowhQrjoQ2rWvTVZbwUc3yEd13wWg88WAk2W4hKI9Fc0 k7xt5UwlSEEHFsYNNfGGL1D8ojX1aJpxoX5LAjtj7i63Q9/AJU8Ld3nYSnSSFR7g Nd+9s98YskQRfEeliQQfD4mmpwrtDT+PqCK7HMQJ3Plqx8RBO1u4OUlLbfkhaFE2 mSK7SB/wg/AfekNnRmKu6r3kIK5AWmUvzDFxoX/ekwRa38zWl1FZU2vaOZw+ezwp d6kiVtdCiq99/AO/3gH3+UFIhzVWi3z9BNv5xYA0InCJPkGsajZkdnOFZiv4ku9K gFe4q6o1n/zewf4P/SDXM1r2oaVKNw== =bpPi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gmnEn01PkfdyBa5RrdakTMIdcIDU145BC--