[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Amy Winston]

net-im/skype

Anyone interested?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Matthew Thode]

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On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:
> net-im/skype
> 
> Anyone interested?
> 
> 
I feel like this is a trick question :P

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-- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[M. J. Everitt]

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On 02/08/16 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote:
> On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:
>> net-im/skype
>>
>> Anyone interested?
>>
>>
> I feel like this is a trick question :P
>
+2


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Jigme Datse Rasku]

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I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
Might be wanting to start that direction...

On Aug 2, 2016 16:03, "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:

> On 02/08/16 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote:
> > On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:
> >> net-im/skype
> >>
> >> Anyone interested?
> >>
> >>
> > I feel like this is a trick question :P
> >
> +2
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Jason Zaman]

On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
> maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
> Might be wanting to start that direction...

There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
what we currently have :P.

https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299

-- Jason

> On Aug 2, 2016 16:03, "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 02/08/16 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote:
> > > On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:
> > >> net-im/skype
> > >>
> > >> Anyone interested?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I feel like this is a trick question :P
> > >
> > +2
> >
> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Marco Ziebell]

I'm using the new "skype alpha for linux" for some weeks and can say that it is
more stable than the other version ever was. 
- writing and calling is working out of the box
- it looks more or less like the windows version

It ships a "ffmpeg.so" and a "libnode.so".

The only thing I had to emerge on my amd64-XFCE systems was the gnome-keyring,
but that's it!

--
Marco

Am Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:15:30 +0800
schrieb Jason Zaman <perfinion@gentoo.org>:

> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
> > I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
> > maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
> > Might be wanting to start that direction...  
> 
> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
> what we currently have :P.
> 
> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
> 
> -- Jason
> 
> > On Aug 2, 2016 16:03, "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On 02/08/16 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote:  
> > > > On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:  
> > > >> net-im/skype
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone interested?
> > > >>
> > > >>  
> > > > I feel like this is a trick question :P
> > > >  
> > > +2
> > >
> > >  
> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 08/02/2016 09:44 PM, Marco Ziebell wrote:
> 
> I'm using the new "skype alpha for linux" for some weeks and can say that it is
> more stable than the other version ever was. 
> - writing and calling is working out of the box
> - it looks more or less like the windows version
> 
> It ships a "ffmpeg.so" and a "libnode.so".
> 
> The only thing I had to emerge on my amd64-XFCE systems was the gnome-keyring,
> but that's it!
> 
> --
> Marco
> 
> Am Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:15:30 +0800
> schrieb Jason Zaman <perfinion@gentoo.org>:
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
>>> maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
>>> Might be wanting to start that direction...  
>>
>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
>> what we currently have :P.
>>
>> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
>>
>> -- Jason
>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2016 16:03, "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 02/08/16 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote:  
>>>>> On 08/02/2016 04:15 PM, Amy Winston wrote:  
>>>>>> net-im/skype
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone interested?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>> I feel like this is a trick question :P
>>>>>  
>>>> +2
>>>>
>>>>  
>>
> 
> 
Does the new version still require PulseAudio?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Guilherme Amadio]

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
> > I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
> > maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
> > Might be wanting to start that direction...
> 
> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
> what we currently have :P.
> 
> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299

There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that feel
that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved
to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.

Cheers,
—Guilherme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Andrew Savchenko]

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On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
> > > I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
> > > maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
> > > Might be wanting to start that direction...
> > 
> > There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
> > I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
> > what we currently have :P.
> > 
> > https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
> 
> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that feel
> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved
> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.

Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
>>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
>>>> maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
>>>> Might be wanting to start that direction...
>>>
>>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
>>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
>>> what we currently have :P.
>>>
>>> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
>>
>> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that feel
>> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved
>> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.
> 
> Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
> some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew Savchenko
> 
Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox can
get past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it
needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course,
doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and
bandwidth use as realistic is difficult.

But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my family
to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or value
digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the
structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server).

If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get
them to simply try Tox or another alternative.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Peter Stuge]

Daniel Campbell wrote:
> Tox
..
> All it needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing.

And a new name. :)


//Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[M]

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The new "skype alpha" works without pulseaudio on my system, not sure if it works WITH pulseaudio ;)

I am not able to make calls with and it feels kind of laggy compare. Depending on the browser version it might have even more limitations. 
That is why I switched to "skype alpha"

"Skype Alpha" started with a complete new version-number, so the latest version would be "1.0.xxx".

In the announcement it is said that making calls with the old (4.0.xx) version will not work anymore. So we could drop the old version as the web version provides as many features as.





Am 3. August 2016 16:10:45 MESZ, schrieb Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org>:
>On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
>>>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
>>>>> maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be
>interested.
>>>>> Might be wanting to start that direction...
>>>>
>>>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked
>into.
>>>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse
>than
>>>> what we currently have :P.
>>>>
>>>>
>https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
>>>
>>> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that
>feel
>>> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've
>moved
>>> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.
>> 
>> Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
>> some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Andrew Savchenko
>> 
>Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox
>can
>get past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it
>needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course,
>doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and
>bandwidth use as realistic is difficult.
>
>But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my
>family
>to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or
>value
>digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the
>structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server).
>
>If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get
>them to simply try Tox or another alternative.
>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 08/03/2016 08:54 AM, M wrote:
> The new "skype alpha" works without pulseaudio on my system, not sure if
> it works WITH pulseaudio ;)
> 
> I am not able to make calls with and it feels kind of laggy compare.
> Depending on the browser version it might have even more limitations.
> That is why I switched to "skype alpha"
> 
> "Skype Alpha" started with a complete new version-number, so the latest
> version would be "1.0.xxx".
> 
> In the announcement it is said that making calls with the old (4.0.xx)
> version will not work anymore. So we could drop the old version as the
> web version provides as many features as.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 3. August 2016 16:10:45 MESZ, schrieb Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org>:
> 
>     On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> 
>         On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
> 
>             On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
> 
>                 On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse
>                 Rasku wrote:
> 
>                     I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are
>                     looking for a new
>                     maintainer. I don't know what is involved, but I
>                     might be interested.
>                     Might be wanting to start that direction...
> 
> 
>                 There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should
>                 be looked into.
>                 I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not
>                 much worse than
>                 what we currently have :P.
> 
>                 https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
> 
> 
>             There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for
>             those that feel
>             that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle.
>             I've moved
>             to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.
> 
> 
>         Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
>         some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.
> 
>         Best regards,
>         Andrew Savchenko
> 
>     Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox can
>     get
>     past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it
>     needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course,
>     doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and
>     bandwidth use as realistic is difficult.
> 
>     But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my family
>     to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or value
>     digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the
>     structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server).
> 
>     If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get
>     them to simply try Tox or another alternative.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail
> gesendet.

I was just on Skype using video chat last night, the old 4.x version
that the ebuild ships.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Mike Frysinger]

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On 03 Aug 2016 17:54, M wrote:

please fix your client to not top post or use html
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Andrew Savchenko]

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On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 07:10:45 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 08/03/2016 05:13 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 08:58:24 -0300 Guilherme Amadio wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 11:15:30AM +0800, Jason Zaman wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote:
> >>>> I'd have to say, there is likely a reason we are looking for a new
> >>>> maintainer.  I don't know what is involved, but I might be interested.
> >>>> Might be wanting to start that direction...
> >>>
> >>> There is a new alpha skype for linux too now that should be looked into.
> >>> I have no idea how stable it is but it's probably not much worse than
> >>> what we currently have :P.
> >>>
> >>> https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
> >>
> >> There is also a web version at https://web.skype.com for those that feel
> >> that installing the desktop client is too much of a hassle. I've moved
> >> to Google Hangouts long ago, though, and never looked back.
> > 
> > Lucky you... I also moved to sip and tox ages ago, but... there are
> > some people that use nothing but skype. That is the problem.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Andrew Savchenko
> > 
> Indeed. The network effect is unfortunately powerful. I think if Tox can
> get past a few key hurdles, adoption will be less of a hassle. All it
> needs is feature parity with video, voice, and file sharing. Of course,
> doing that with end-to-end encryption *and* with as little latency and
> bandwidth use as realistic is difficult.

There are more feature required: NAT traversal and restricted
firewall traversal. These may be irrelevant for most people in EU
or US, because they have white IPv4 or IPv6 addresses, but is
crucial for countries with limited numbers of IP's available and no
wide ipv6 support: most people here are behind the provider's NAT
and have no IPv6 (including myself).

And skype is damn good at this, it work even when both clients are
behind their NATs, udp is blocked and tcp is restricted to few
ports. SIP lacks here badly, clients need use either STUN (and it
doesn't always work) or VPN to SIP server, which is not always
provided and may be blocked as well. Tox is much better here: it
can workaround multiple NATs and some blocked ports, but video
becomes laggy :/

One more problem with tox: it is hard to sync accounts between
multiple hosts (e.g. desktop, laptop, phone): users have to sync
data themselves. Though skype is not perfect here either and have a
lot of bugs with syncing.

> But I try it out every now and then to see if I could convince my family
> to switch to it. In my experience people don't fully understand or value
> digital privacy until you explain to them what could be done with the
> structure of applications like Skype (going through a central server).
> 
> If they ever reach the point of understanding that, it's easier to get
> them to simply try Tox or another alternative.

In my experience showing Mr. Snowden's docs makes a huge impression.
YMMW of course.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Aaron Bauman]

Hi, all.

The following package is up for grabs. It has 2 open bugs [1] [2].

I am no longer interested in maintaining packages within the Ruby
ecosystem.

-Aaron

[1]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/736414
[2]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/767343

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Anthony G. Basile]

Hi everyone,

I was maintaining the following package

net-p2p/tribler

but I just dropped it to maintainer-needed.  Someone asked me for it,
but it needs work on bumping and its not that interesting/important to me.

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Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
E-Mail    : blueness@gentoo.org
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[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

[Johannes Huber]

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x11-misc/kdocker - Does not use technology stack by kde, pure Qt/x11 app. 
Moved from launchpad to github (https://github.com/user-none/KDocke). Needs 
EAPI + version bump.

Cheers
-- 
Johannes Huber (johu)
Gentoo Linux Developer / KDE Team
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