From: Bart Braem <bart.braem@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 13:48:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3cplj$jv3$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20060404121850.GD6101@sympatico.ca
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Philip Webb wrote:
> 060404 Caleb Tennis wrote:
>> historically we were much more bleeding edge with our stable KDE
>> versions, but if you've spent any significant time playing with 3.5.0 or
>> 3.5.1, you would agree that they are terribly less stable than 3.4.3.
>
> Not here ! I've used both (successively) every day
> & can't recall a single crash or noteworthy (indeed any) problem.
> It's true that I don't use Kmail & similar exchange-type apps
> & some comments suggest that is where the bulk of instability lies.
>
> The fact that KDE itself is no longer accepting bugs for 3.4.3
> really does suggest there's something wrong with Gentoo's current
> criteria.
>
As a user I have to add my opinion here. I have been using Gentoo for some
years now and it was always fairly up to date. Currently KDE is really
behind on the current situation upstream.
And then I wonder why. What makes us think we can not trust the KDE devs?
Does compiling KDE introduce so many bugs? I mean, let's be serious, all
other distributions have a stable 3.5.x now. Don't they experience all
those horrible bugs?
Seriously, this is really becoming an issue. As I pointed out in a bug I
filed for a stable KDE (for which I apologize, I should have looked here
first), some people are leaving Gentoo because of this slow upgrade
process.
The classical answer from devs is "it's ready when it's ready". From a user
point of view this is very, very vague. Please give users a more clear
explanation, this creates great frustration when looking at other
distributions. Because it's stable there.
These are my 2 cents as a user. One that loves Gentoo. One that loves KDE.
One that's frustrated by the current situation. I am a CS so I know how
hard programming can be, don't get me wrong there. I do appreciate what you
guys do. But I can't understand why you do it this way right now.
Bart
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-03 23:05 [gentoo-dev] When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable? m h
2006-04-03 23:11 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-03 23:44 ` Aron Griffis
2006-04-04 2:16 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 2:28 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 2:50 ` lnxg33k
2006-04-04 3:23 ` Jason S
2006-04-04 3:37 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 15:12 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 16:11 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 16:37 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 17:04 ` m h
2006-04-04 17:42 ` Phil Richards
2006-04-04 21:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 20:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 16:42 ` Simon Stelling
2006-04-04 20:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 2:37 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-04-04 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-04-04 9:21 ` Michael Cummings
2006-04-04 9:42 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-04-04 10:38 ` Michael Cummings
2006-04-03 23:13 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-03 23:25 ` m h
2006-04-04 5:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 6:16 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-04-04 10:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 6:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-04-04 6:42 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-04 10:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 12:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-04-04 9:12 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-04-04 9:51 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-04 10:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 10:38 ` Caleb Tennis
2006-04-04 11:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 12:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-05-04 11:48 ` Bart Braem [this message]
2006-05-04 12:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-04 12:30 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-05 7:14 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-05 7:35 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-05 7:56 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-05 8:11 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-05 9:03 ` Michael Kirkland
2006-05-05 8:16 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-05-05 20:09 ` Jeff Smelser
2006-05-06 9:03 ` Richard Fish
2006-05-04 12:21 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-04 13:45 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-04 14:28 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-04 23:29 ` Michael Kirkland
2006-05-05 5:28 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-05 10:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 6:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 11:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 13:23 ` Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 14:38 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 18:37 ` Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 19:10 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 19:08 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-05 7:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 8:03 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-05 8:33 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-05 8:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 11:28 ` Duncan
2006-05-05 8:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2006-05-05 9:44 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-06 6:48 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-06 11:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-06 12:48 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-06 13:01 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-06 13:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 10:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Caleb Tennis
2006-05-05 11:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 11:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 11:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-06 9:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Fish
2006-05-05 7:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-05-05 11:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 21:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2006-05-05 12:03 ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-04 13:05 ` Duncan
2006-05-04 13:47 ` Guillaume Pujol
2006-05-06 8:56 ` Richard Fish
2006-04-04 11:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-04-08 13:41 ` Wernfried Haas
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