From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUnT9-0006yR-5W for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:36:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AB6CE078C; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f228.google.com (mail-fx0-f228.google.com [209.85.220.228]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B7FE078C for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm28 with SMTP id 28so14312768fxm.26 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:35:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AAGY5eK+d+u2QJ9OcT/enla1UJFZYsvOWGIL9uyz1og=; b=aSgiFB6LN0cWz/L3hNgwLKADRaBWtHF2bzbRdQ/z6XUmd9RJ5Am9oppRWC/nh4bjLf CphcyxL3Du/umG/ir6uZUf8b3AcBNpcbvsaVVKSRfVrP+A5ip8R4MspnIbFjJY9dAqPq ulmJJRoKVr5WsryGC/ANXzCIo1gkHAR5GSLnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=udtgeW72P1yT1BvnZL5mfdVWKKWaAKQxq8+R23fXUBGveSQJBhL74k2SUHw+fNp/J4 TTRBOrMXJKHSQqGP03lptaGB8rBRykhF47tSeYj5sTUv63HE0R8ATzgM7iDtvMydKWSB Hi/L4D8UChzrWZ4ziLAUCKdmYYtw3gh38aTQs= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.185.195 with SMTP id d3mr1476579hbh.184.1263328546186; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:35:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201001122149.11091.hwoarang@gentoo.org> References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <201001122030.27164.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100112194037.GA917@launay.org> <201001122149.11091.hwoarang@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:35:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2a63a3b56f6f807b Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 4be1ec8d-481f-45e4-a806-94feea6bc87d X-Archives-Hash: a83072e2176ef3b719ec9324570d07bb 2010/1/12 Markos Chandras : > If you feel like it, become a proxy-maintainer and poke a developer to put > your ebuilds on tree. Have you ever heard of that ? :) Proxy-maintainership should be given a MUCH higher profile in Gentoo, in my opinion. It is a virtually unknown option. Another thing that works in my experience, but this is up to the herds/projects, is having an official overlay where devs and users can work closely together. This allows users to commit ebuilds and patches, while there is quality control by the involved devs. Devs can keep an eye on such overlays and move stuff to portage when they are ready. Sunrise is the most obvious example for this, for maintainer-wanted packages. But it works equally well for us in the Qt project with qting-edge, and I believe kde and pro-audio have the same experience. But I also believe we need a better structure to handle maintainer-needed, maintainer-wanted and nominally maintained but ignored packages. Maybe we should form a team, which would be dedicated to take care of such things, and which would have a review policy for user submitted ebuilds and patches in bugzilla. A bit like treecleaners, but bringing life instead of death. What do you think? Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) ______________________________________________________