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2009/11/3 J=C3=B6rg Schaible <joerg.schaible@gmx.de>
> >>> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (16 Oct 2009)
> >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427.
> >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days.
> >>> net-news/eventwatcher
> >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch
> >> ...
> >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D279823
> >>
> >> Does kde team changed their plans to move kde3 together with all kde3
> >> applications to dedicated overlay? If not, then why we just drop this
> >> applications?
> >>
> >
> > No, the plan hasn't changed. These won't build with _stable_ KDE4
> > installed, and has no reverse deps. As such, they will be killed. Only
> > the functional KDE3 programs will be moved to overlay.
>
> Sorry, I cannot follow this argumentation. In the office I need Exchange
> integration and all I can hope is, that it is ready for KDE 4.5. Unless
> this time, I have to stick with KDE3.
>
> However, with you removing all those apps, you also remove quite some tha=
t I
> use and need also. If you do not move them to the KDE3 overlay, my KDE3
> setup is quite similar useless as KDE4 and the KDE3 overlay is simply a
> farce. If I use KDE3 only, I do *not* have KDE4 on my machine i.e. those
> apps *will* build without problems. You would have better add some build
> dependency with <kdelibs-4 to effectively block those ebuilds when KDE4 i=
s
> installed.
You should join the kde-sunset (aka kde3) overlay team and maintain those
packages, with the proper kde4 blocks, in that overlay. It expressly exists=
for
people who need legacy applications.
--
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
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> >>> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (16 Oct 2009)
> >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427.
> >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days.
> >>> net-news/eventwatcher
> >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch
> >> ...
> >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D279823
> >>
> >> Does kde team changed their plans to move kde3 together with all kde3
> >> applications to dedicated overlay? If not, then why we just drop this
> >> applications?
> >>
> >
> > No, the plan hasn't changed. These won't build with _stable_ KDE4
> > installed, and has no reverse deps. As such, they will be killed. Only
> > the functional KDE3 programs will be moved to overlay.
>
> Sorry, I cannot follow this argumentation. In the office I need Exchange
> integration and all I can hope is, that it is ready for KDE 4.5. Unless
> this time, I have to stick with KDE3.
>
> However, with you removing all those apps, you also remove quite some tha=
t I
> use and need also. If you do not move them to the KDE3 overlay, my KDE3
> setup is quite similar useless as KDE4 and the KDE3 overlay is simply a
> farce. If I use KDE3 only, I do *not* have KDE4 on my machine i.e. those
> apps *will* build without problems. You would have better add some build
> dependency with <kdelibs-4 to effectively block those ebuilds when KDE4 i=
s
> installed.
You should join the kde-sunset (aka kde3) overlay team and maintain those
packages, with the proper kde4 blocks, in that overlay. It expressly exists=
for
people who need legacy applications.
--
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
______________________________________________________