From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5f09-000170-Jd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:30:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D762BE0BA9; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C92E0BA9 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053016765E for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 required=5.5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wd6vRc48tFPV for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com (mail-bw0-f221.google.com [209.85.218.221]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CC2675E9 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so8749574bwz.24 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GZ1zTflDDcrkhFxp88ffXkux1ozrJxBnnWo8dQWcxI8=; b=ODbb/fMkOCwQ+jz0vuflj5inEDgOwbsVk7TRUrVn5tblYC8xXrRQ7ZZC+/hOzJkO7/ cfuxzS+fzaP/OBkD9VzVHzkvggbr8XqMSTYue/Mvj/VofGy19O3oyYWcH7UmsfXIvVw3 0iRtu4KGpE3askIuaeUbfwJa/QsvkY7lom9JE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XlCVc4sHg51jEnEIrXK9HeYN+0bU4Tul8pvBcUgUYXy9IrYXbD8IkbTlVphrOLfREz NDsUtR0XH4cSQphmB9ZZWyRFmAqE3Nqz+92n31jPC2KcTizfyFMIfhue+stw1iaO8vFg 6HfOJcznECPPb4Z15DCJFmXROaWcYsA+q/sUQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.139.196 with SMTP id u4mr132114hbu.114.1257337763273; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4AD8D301.7020903@gentoo.org> <1255775174.2212.1393.camel@tablet> <4AD99DE5.7060701@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:29:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 86f0a749ab3614f8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6e550024-f014-4436-ba09-fa5ce35526f8 X-Archives-Hash: 59af842295d6b3bbf9660fab04522370 2009/11/3 J=C3=B6rg Schaible > >>> # Samuli Suominen (16 Oct 2009) > >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427. > >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days. > >>> net-news/eventwatcher > >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch > >> ... > >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D279823 > >> > >> Does kde team changed their plans to move kde3 together with all kde3 > >> applications to dedicated overlay? If not, then why we just drop this > >> applications? > >> > > > > No, the plan hasn't changed. These won't build with _stable_ KDE4 > > installed, and has no reverse deps. As such, they will be killed. Only > > the functional KDE3 programs will be moved to overlay. > > Sorry, I cannot follow this argumentation. In the office I need Exchange > integration and all I can hope is, that it is ready for KDE 4.5. Unless > this time, I have to stick with KDE3. > > However, with you removing all those apps, you also remove quite some tha= t I > use and need also. If you do not move them to the KDE3 overlay, my KDE3 > setup is quite similar useless as KDE4 and the KDE3 overlay is simply a > farce. If I use KDE3 only, I do *not* have KDE4 on my machine i.e. those > apps *will* build without problems. You would have better add some build > dependency with installed. You should join the kde-sunset (aka kde3) overlay team and maintain those packages, with the proper kde4 blocks, in that overlay. It expressly exists= for people who need legacy applications. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) ______________________________________________________ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ezU-0000yy-8U for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:29:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 835F1E0BA3; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com (mail-bw0-f215.google.com [209.85.218.215]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45238E0BA3 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so8987805bwz.26 for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GZ1zTflDDcrkhFxp88ffXkux1ozrJxBnnWo8dQWcxI8=; b=ODbb/fMkOCwQ+jz0vuflj5inEDgOwbsVk7TRUrVn5tblYC8xXrRQ7ZZC+/hOzJkO7/ cfuxzS+fzaP/OBkD9VzVHzkvggbr8XqMSTYue/Mvj/VofGy19O3oyYWcH7UmsfXIvVw3 0iRtu4KGpE3askIuaeUbfwJa/QsvkY7lom9JE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XlCVc4sHg51jEnEIrXK9HeYN+0bU4Tul8pvBcUgUYXy9IrYXbD8IkbTlVphrOLfREz NDsUtR0XH4cSQphmB9ZZWyRFmAqE3Nqz+92n31jPC2KcTizfyFMIfhue+stw1iaO8vFg 6HfOJcznECPPb4Z15DCJFmXROaWcYsA+q/sUQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.139.196 with SMTP id u4mr132114hbu.114.1257337763273; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:29:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4AD8D301.7020903@gentoo.org> <1255775174.2212.1393.camel@tablet> <4AD99DE5.7060701@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:29:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 86f0a749ab3614f8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d8239fef-3d31-4f90-819a-5751198bf7cf X-Archives-Hash: 7e440214b911958e9393584d17260e4a Message-ID: <20091104122923.z5hqgGgfUTzZQple9KKKzSQgE5tVZxLYVR1_Zkd5Nao@z> 2009/11/3 J=C3=B6rg Schaible > >>> # Samuli Suominen (16 Oct 2009) > >>> # Fails to build with KDE4 installed wrt bug #277427. > >>> # Masked for removal in 30 days. > >>> net-news/eventwatcher > >>> kde-misc/kisdnwatch > >> ... > >>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D279823 > >> > >> Does kde team changed their plans to move kde3 together with all kde3 > >> applications to dedicated overlay? If not, then why we just drop this > >> applications? > >> > > > > No, the plan hasn't changed. These won't build with _stable_ KDE4 > > installed, and has no reverse deps. As such, they will be killed. Only > > the functional KDE3 programs will be moved to overlay. > > Sorry, I cannot follow this argumentation. In the office I need Exchange > integration and all I can hope is, that it is ready for KDE 4.5. Unless > this time, I have to stick with KDE3. > > However, with you removing all those apps, you also remove quite some tha= t I > use and need also. If you do not move them to the KDE3 overlay, my KDE3 > setup is quite similar useless as KDE4 and the KDE3 overlay is simply a > farce. If I use KDE3 only, I do *not* have KDE4 on my machine i.e. those > apps *will* build without problems. You would have better add some build > dependency with installed. You should join the kde-sunset (aka kde3) overlay team and maintain those packages, with the proper kde4 blocks, in that overlay. It expressly exists= for people who need legacy applications. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) ______________________________________________________