[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

[R Hill <dirtyepic.sk@gmail.com>]

Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 21:33 +0000, Stuart Herbert wrote:
>> Hence emerge --news.
> 
> Why?
> 
> There's no "emerge --etc" or "emerge --etc-update" functionality.  Why
> must it be "emerge --news" at all?

# emerge --help config

probably an emerge --help news that explains the basics of the news 
system and points the user to the default reader (whatever that becomes) 
or even just tells them where to find the news files to read in their 
editor of choice would be helpful.

>> We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news.  We can't do
>> that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at once.
>> We have to launch *one* service first, give the userbase time to adjust
>> to that, and then start making the news available via additional
>> sources.

No!  The other channels to deliver news to users are already in place. 
Make them *all* the one authoritative source of news.  If your goal is 
100% coverage, then why proceed without a fallback?

> No, we really don't.  Our users aren't idiots.  They just aren't reading
> the information presented to them.  While I agree that we need to have a
> single location for news, I also think that we must *require* this
> information be present in other locations.  The main reason for this is
> that "emerge --news" is filtered based on the packages installed on the
> system.  What about administrators that have lots of different systems?
> To them, it might be easier to receive all of the news, via
> gentoo-announce, and filter them via their own methods to determine what
> is important to them.  Perhaps I want to search for an old news item.
> Why shouldn't I be able to go to a web site and enter my query in a
> search box and get all of the major news updates to dev-lang/php?
> 
> If you want to reach 100% of the user base, then we should make this
> useful for as many situations as possible.  I know that with the number
> of machines that I administer, it would be much easier for me to get
> *all* of the news in one place and determine what is valid for my
> machines, rather than having to read them on each individual machine
> based on the packages installed.

Seconded. ;)


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