From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EYqVF-0008Ce-DS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:48:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA6JlPTS004772; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:47:25 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA6Jj0Eg027394 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:45:00 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYqRn-0005Th-LQ for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:44:59 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYqQC-0004cA-9L for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:43:20 +0100 Received: from 206-163-248-230.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca ([206.163.248.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:43:20 +0100 Received: from dirtyepic.sk by 206-163-248-230.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:43:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: R Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:41:46 -0600 Message-ID: References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> <43675C83.4010005@gentoo.org> <20051101122657.2d06d9e5@snowdrop.home> <11710324670.20051101133924@gentoo.org> <20051101124806.422976f6@snowdrop.home> <1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org> <20051101181814.1db4d8d5@snowdrop.home> <436AAF14.5070903@ieee.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206-163-248-230.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051105) In-Reply-To: <436AAF14.5070903@ieee.org> Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 9fc07030-c191-4bab-ab67-e9e53005c628 X-Archives-Hash: 7b65c53b662b566c6521d6f78732f098 Nathan L. Adams wrote: > Just keep in mind that portage is supposed to be non-interactive and > most users like it that way. (Although the countdown when cleaning out > old packages kinda breaks that idea, but I digress.) This must be some definition of the word interactive i'm not aware of. ;) Displaying something on the screen for a user to read is not interaction. > So just make sure that the scheme doesn't involve forcing the user to > notice anything during a 'normal' non-interactive emerge in order for it > to be effective. Thats why I keep pushing having a nice GuideXML version > in a central location like http://errata.g.o/ and just having emerge > output a summary and a link (however/at what point/with what mechanism > you decide to actually have portage output it). Forcing the user to see it is exactly the point. There are already many sources for news that the user can go to. We don't need another. And while the idea of having portage give the user a summary and link is a step in the right direction, it'd be even nicer if the message itself was available without an internet connection (ie. kept in the tree). --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list