From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9RN9-0006nn-5W for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:13:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FE71E0484; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF42E0484 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so4493714bwz.34 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HaFp44aUQsJx9UXRSaQlzsfkIomshQJ5YrsJrmO12xQ=; b=RdM9FHwil7NI7C+nX0GWri6qLU8euPVvte7jxBo2BAvVG2+gk6VbHmD5CK0cncQw3I FgoLjdtwDzxff1GAtNeeWfhJxL2Mydh/bUF2b8jb1QhrG7tSZKXrdsjxQwtbUygPN0kO 94gxxyg2yMp+kWQGpVb9UThcBO7aUW0PB2XL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=s8W3R44KWfJ3SNiQzXBICspudisuKyx74xKC6l5TyseKYQSv71YaKYkLr1ja0wtTTM 0n9TpMiuOKt7WMTiJ/LtL9jbS3gQoTUCZ/DgrsYioKZpeHLwTahYdhX6D+3M5/RK0Kv1 HoQkHZXdPuX727K5vdrZg0pWz6Xh/Tu6rxwBc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: p.jaroszynski@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.57.67 with SMTP id b3mr442375bkh.99.1243462396233; Wed, 27 May 2009 15:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905272358.44171.patrick@gentoo.org> References: <1243454143.3480.1@NeddySeagoon> <4A1DA935.3000007@gentoo.org> <200905272358.44171.patrick@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Piotr_Jaroszy=C5=84ski?= Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 00:12:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1be135ebfbd5dfc8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c1127d03-211c-4dd5-947c-ebe1ceebbe8b X-Archives-Hash: b2c89d1774b9a3e0102f0eb8256902b1 2009/5/27 Patrick Lauer : > On Wednesday 27 May 2009 22:57:25 Joe Peterson wrote: > >> > Gentoo should not repeat the VHS vs Betamax war. For those who do not >> > remember, VHS was the better marketed but inferior technical solution >> > that won the standards war for domestic Video recorders. >> > >> :) =C2=A0Yep. =C2=A0And bad design decisions can haunt is for a long tim= e. > > Actually, once we add the current-glep55 changes we have no way of sanely > undoing them if we should realize that they don't work out for us ... > > ... unless we do horrible things like forbidding it, which would cause th= e > same errors we are trying to hide now. > > So unless we have a plan for mid-term future changes I don't see why we w= ould > want the current GLEP55 - it's a one-way change in the current state. How is it one-way exactly? You can do pretty much anything you want in a new EAPI (that's the point). >> My preference is the one-time .ebuild->.eb change, and putting the EAPI = on >> the first line, like a #!shebang. =C2=A0Very easy to extract, and good d= esign. > > My preference is freezing the rsync tree, storing all referenced distfile= s on > at least one mirror, then change the rsync path. > That way all "old" users get the last sane upgrade position (...) And bugs and security vulnerabilities too. Or do you propose maintaining multiple trees at the same time? I think one of the main points of EAPI was to avoid doing exactly that. --=20 Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszy=C5=84ski