From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-15366-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1G7QAj-0006oe-6Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:18:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V5Hi9g006027; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:17:44 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V5FnMI014142 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:49 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so350011nfc for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:15:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aGT0xke5ecDv14Qiuy4FzYcKvS3FqfhADfbyLtbo7NVgQpHKcJKp3L1yxQ+JUaITuu4UfXbIjZF6UMXoRHweet9rXJzfBAq6RIKcT7nBrhLH933f7x/ai/tE1OCnzIKBvA4o0C2G0m63Xn/zCIhBvQPxxGxNZbMirw/zNUDXdtU= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr403482hud; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.137.14 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <d14bee470607302215x5ce954b0y2cb5216d60047053@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:15:49 -0500 From: "Alex Tarkovsky" <alextarkovsky@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) In-Reply-To: <20060731052751.0dc06ec2@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <eabcs0$j25$1@sea.gmane.org> <1154314231.11516.10.camel@localhost> <20060731040614.5ec4b176@snowdrop.home> <200607302332.28056.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> <d14bee470607302120g7644400dh3850b9d287fdac25@mail.gmail.com> <20060731052751.0dc06ec2@snowdrop.home> X-Archives-Salt: 9d551ce3-53b1-4c4b-90db-a5a76cb0f83d X-Archives-Hash: e01ec08e4a15ee4f8b2e0a3487218d4d On 7/30/06, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:20:16 -0500 "Alex Tarkovsky" > <alextarkovsky@gmail.com> wrote: > | This "no QA" accusation is a complete myth. QA led by actual Gentoo > | developers is indeed in place at Sunrise [1]. > > Did you look at *which* actual Gentoo developers are on the list? I'm not certain what you're insinuating here, but yes, I'm a Sunrise contributor so I work with these Gentoo devs and watch them interact with everyone daily. They're quite competent, hard-working, friendly and helpful. Thanks largely in part to their efforts, 4 regular Sunrise contributors have already decided to increase their involvement by becoming "trusted committers", and they may very soon become full-fledged Gentoo developers (the traditional way of course). > Even that aside, if a couple of hundred developers can't handle doing > QA for all those maintainer-wanted ebuilds, what makes you think four > people can? Sunrise only became functional about a month ago. Give it time. It's true there are only 4 Gentoo devs *currently* presiding, but they only oversee the ~150 ebuilds that are currently in Sunrise. As Sunrise succeeds (and all indications are it's working quite well so far), more Gentoo devs will no doubt choose to participate. Also note that it isn't Sunrise's goal to move every single maintainer-wanted/maintainer-needed ebuild into the overlay, so it's not fair to judge the project's capabilities against such a lofty standard. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list