From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7PJx-00015x-Nm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:24:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V4MX23013313; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:22:33 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V4KGM6005881 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:20:16 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so341521nfc for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WUjbZi37QzY464I2oAvfH+wxWCULY9Rz1eMmcTaEb0qWzVQzSdS/D87oAdiJkwBZnfj6o8KsxYVv3QGGHVHaiOR+0oObeZJEbhMQXWK7ID+yEEHtL1JeQ7RmNe48jyLIZIdNxYxZQKTIw+l6CNm8RrjKOJyzlvPXU3Yzvm3D2D0= Received: by 10.78.175.14 with SMTP id x14mr405218hue; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.137.14 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:20:16 -0500 From: "Alex Tarkovsky" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) In-Reply-To: <200607302332.28056.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1154314231.11516.10.camel@localhost> <20060731040614.5ec4b176@snowdrop.home> <200607302332.28056.brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> X-Archives-Salt: f30dcb1f-0e37-4739-8e4e-b396a25b1c84 X-Archives-Hash: 0b34b81b3181f522d0688e00b27958b0 On 7/30/06, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > My concerns - first for my systems - are that it is allowing essentially anybody to > submit almost anything with no QA. This "no QA" accusation is a complete myth. QA led by actual Gentoo developers is indeed in place at Sunrise [1]. Every single user-authored submission made available in the public overlay was placed there by existing Gentoo developers who've reviewed and approved them. When you check out Sunrise using layman for instance, you are getting what's known as the "reviewed" tree, not the tree that users commit directly to. If these facts still don't assuage your concerns then don't use the Sunrise overlay -- it's that simple. I suspect this myth perpetuates because its supporters haven't actually bothered to review the Sunrise procedures [2] already in place and in use. Another source of enlightenment which many, if not all, of the detractors don't seem to have indulged in is dropping by #gentoo-sunrise and watching the Sunrise process as it happens in practice. Please do your homework people, otherwise you're just spreading FUD. [1] http://www.gentoo-sunrise.org/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq [2] http://www.gentoo-sunrise.org/sunrise/wiki/HowToCommit -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list