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From: "Alex Tarkovsky" <alextarkovsky@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)
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On 7/30/06, Brett I. Holcomb <brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> My concerns - first for my systems - are that it is allowing essentially anybody to
> submit almost anything with no QA.

This "no QA" accusation is a complete myth. QA led by actual Gentoo
developers is indeed in place at Sunrise [1]. Every single
user-authored submission made available in the public overlay was
placed there by existing Gentoo developers who've reviewed and
approved them. When you check out Sunrise using layman for instance,
you are getting what's known as the "reviewed" tree, not the tree that
users commit directly to. If these facts still don't assuage your
concerns then don't use the Sunrise overlay -- it's that simple.

I suspect this myth perpetuates because its supporters haven't
actually bothered to review the Sunrise procedures [2] already in
place and in use. Another source of enlightenment which many, if not
all, of the detractors don't seem to have indulged in is dropping by
#gentoo-sunrise and watching the Sunrise process as it happens in
practice. Please do your homework people, otherwise you're just
spreading FUD.

[1] http://www.gentoo-sunrise.org/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq
[2] http://www.gentoo-sunrise.org/sunrise/wiki/HowToCommit
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