From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9764D138010 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29F9CE056C; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.a3li.li (sawfish.a3li.li [89.238.78.10]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E84E0540 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CB8222709 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:34:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at a3li.li Received: from mail.a3li.li ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (stingray.a3li.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OoSRhspNakdS for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.a3li.li (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E4BD2226FF for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:34:35 +0200 From: Alex Legler To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed In-Reply-To: References: <1347472741.2365.5.camel@belkin4> <5051E41C.1060809@gentoo.org> <1347566254.4821.5.camel@belkin4> Message-ID: X-Sender: a3li@gentoo.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8-rc X-Archives-Salt: 3bf74078-f3ad-42fd-b4dd-1c8c517e7f32 X-Archives-Hash: b36b5ca2a014418c9eb74035b28c3f05 Am 2012-09-13 22:11, schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Pacho Ramos > wrote: >> El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 15:48 +0200, Alex Legler escribió: >>> Sorta OT but a general thing: I think you should CC teams you want >>> to >>> talk to and not only use the gentoo-systemd-flamewars^W^W-dev >>> mailing >>> list where these teams might only find your post by chance. >>> >> >> I thought all developers were subscribed to gentoo-dev and would >> read >> it :| >> No. -dev is not mandatory and several people are explicitly not subscribed, others don't read it regularly. Given the low SNR this list currently has, that's not really a surprise. > > Maybe, maybe not, but this seems like the appropriate place to > discuss > it. Maybe -project instead. However, I don't think you need to CC > 14 > teams on an email just in case they don't read -dev. Debate it on > -dev, and then announce the outcome on -announce if it is important > enough. Don't be silly. This is not about 14 teams, it pertains mainly one team. CCing one alias is not too much to ask for, given people CC aliases all the time even for simpler things than this. Also, I'd like to be asked before *you* change things in *my* team's policy. (Think someone touching others' ebuilds, all hell would break loose) So: Discuss with the team (on -dev *if* they read it), then announce on -dev-announce. We read it fairly soon this time, but please don't expect everyone is actively filtering the traffic on this list for things that pertain to them. There are team aliases for a reason. > > Rich -- Alex Legler Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure