From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCC2115806E for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B1F6E08F4; Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BFFDE08DA for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 21:42:51 +0300 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM Content-Language: en-US To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, williamh@gentoo.org References: <49ce8700-6c96-9360-51cf-2a989f666752@gentoo.org> From: Joonas Niilola In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------E3ZrmwfCA0ZEFonBpe0pgglA" X-Archives-Salt: 59e18e47-66db-41e5-92eb-3c02cc2a3d61 X-Archives-Hash: 53c4bb4c1690e53ac16f43a0f6d83b5f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------E3ZrmwfCA0ZEFonBpe0pgglA Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------qf0SD6mDO9A00eREOivh7J8Z"; protected-headers="v1" From: Joonas Niilola To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, williamh@gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM References: <49ce8700-6c96-9360-51cf-2a989f666752@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: --------------qf0SD6mDO9A00eREOivh7J8Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2.6.2023 21.06, William Hubbs wrote: >> >> In theory it's "easy", but in practice how'd you work? This would be >> fine when a single developer is proxying a single maintainer, but when= a >> a stack of devs (project) are proxying hundreds of different people, i= t >> becomes messy and unsustainable rather fast. > =20 > This comment is completely off topic for this thread, so start another= > thread for it if you want, but if hundreds of people are being proxied= > by proxy-maint, that seems to be a concern unrelated to this. It seems= > the fix for that is to advocate for some of these hundreds of people t= o > become developers so they don't have to be proxied any more. >=20 How is it offtopic when I'm answering concerns you raised? Imagine there are tens of people who do 4 commits a year, roughly, to bump random go packages. What do you believe is the time investment for reviewing, testing and committing their contributions, vs. mentoring them to become devs if they don't involve themselves much outside bumping these packages? Also, will _you_ volunteer to mentor them? It's so easy to push more work for others to do. Sorry if I come out harsh but this is reality, not just theory. -- juippis --------------qf0SD6mDO9A00eREOivh7J8Z-- --------------E3ZrmwfCA0ZEFonBpe0pgglA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGSBAEBCgB9FiEEltRJ9L6XRmDQCngHc4OUK43AaWIFAmR6OCtfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk2 RDQ0OUY0QkU5NzQ2NjBEMDBBNzgwNzczODM5NDJCOERDMDY5NjIACgkQc4OUK43A aWJTxAf4l1+ZQBRxUg+8oUvqfBFecpbMAUc5P9+Xwta13hyvyG/nsVnDjBVI8+e0 hSBB5hnSqGryeQ6tcYmYFW4RRcYmfAY6qWIqpoYT1nEIh862NldZKINOAuofDRl0 Z29K0yFddM/l2z5W2PWNAC7I8zSUSbz6m3e+7sBp2Uzi4t2XNaqnwRGLCryLFKdD 4dsbDl/ns16lgRN448M6f0EDdduRPkoPo+Supf+DwbivloALk6hqIO2rIzDMzocI lZ84l9GlOacr8eySxFM7tYREGQDJeRbbOETpNlA74Zqn6L1TfgpANWdYTlc8ferb 7vZ7GrQr8a30PAnCYPrAWfbF90+i =FRit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------E3ZrmwfCA0ZEFonBpe0pgglA--