From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NUY5f-0002AQ-6p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:10:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66946E095C for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jolexa.net (jolexa.net [69.164.197.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E35CE0874 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by jolexa.net (Postfix, from userid 101) id 3006C5B80A; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:43:18 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:43:18 +0000 From: Jeremy Olexa In-Reply-To: <4B4BD225.5030308@gentoo.org> References: <201001112305.16532.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <20100111233024.GF8358@launay.org> <4B4BD225.5030308@gentoo.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: darkside@gentoo.org User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 36f5758c-5950-42af-899f-90f8490fb678 X-Archives-Hash: 648a88dcc7ca806af1ef6c2376521773 On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman wrote: > On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote: >> >> As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this. >=20 > Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal.= =20 > It would be conspicuous in its absence. >=20 > Would it make sense to post on -dev BEFORE masking packages like this?=20 > I'm sure there are lots of people who would chip in before something=20 > like this dies. (A general reply, not targeted towards you, Rich) Speaking on behalf of the treecleaners: The fact is, some of us have never heard of "inn" and until Gentoo has some sort of "popularity tracking" software/tool, the treecleaners will continue to mask unmaintained software. We can't possible know about ever= y package in the tree and if it looks like it is unmaintained (open bugs w/= o action) then we will mask it for removal unless someone fixes it and maintains it. Let's all move on here and be happy that someone is now maintaining such = a popular package. Thanks jer/rej - I'll add you to metadata so it doesn't become unmaintained again :) Wasn't there a GSoC project on popularity of packages? Let's get it implemented already! ;) -Jeremy >=20 > Right now lots of users are going to get errors due to a masked package= =20 > until somebody takes the initiative to fix it. I suspect that nobody=20 > wants to poke their head up and risk getting it shot off by doing=20 > something like that... >=20 > Perhaps Gentoo needs a little more of Wikipedia's "Be Bold" attitude an= d > a little less of their "delete first and ask questions later" attitude. >=20 > Note - I'm not suggesting the problem shouldn't be fixed - I'm just=20 > suggesting that in this case the solution is worse than the original=20 > problem. >=20 > Rich