From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MO6KG-0007C8-9t for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:46:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7828E06CF; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com (mail-gx0-f220.google.com [209.85.217.220]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58DE06CF for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so11416344gxk.10 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.90.103.13 with SMTP id a13mr4535929agc.114.1246956409448; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:46:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A52E641.9080403@trelane.net> References: <20090707000111.473a10bd@snowmobile> <4A52E641.9080403@trelane.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:46:49 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4c2762eac4ee7c34 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness From: Alec Warner To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 610cc115-fdd3-4b88-976c-e2f3b316dda5 X-Archives-Hash: 483ef850d682a37655d74deabdac4f20 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Ciaran, > > I've talked with the pkgcore people and they don't use the EAPI's (or > PMS) in the first place. This essentially leaves you writing documents > you're requiring for paludis support. As this seems to be mostly a PM > issue, it should be taken elsewhere. To that end, here is a > gentoo-portage-dev mailing list that is more appropriate for minor > process issues such as those brought up below. > I think that ending this discussion here and moving it over to a forum > more appropriate to package manager development would reduce the > temperature around your proposals and get them implemented (as Zac seems > willing to do so). While I realize this is a general purpose mailing > list, it is general purpose, and there is a mailing list specifically > for portage development. I think you are slightly misreading his intent (or I am misreading it). I believe Ciaran is talking about "what gentoo should put in make.defaults such that the user experience doesn't totally suck for this new EAPI3 thing" and provided some ideas. I'm pretty sure whether or not PM foo has implemented these things is a moot point as far as this thread is concerned. -A > > Andrew > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> *SNIP* > >