From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-34872-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Lgt74-0008Kq-KF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:58:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB17CE0218; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.243]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EADE0218 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2125616rvb.46 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com Received: by 10.141.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr3468712rvp.223.1236657520218; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090309222511.751c5aea@snowmobile> References: <1236498557.6854.51.camel@neuromancer> <20090309202624.723e4b2a@snowcone> <20090309223311.4774f0bf@terra.solaris> <20090309213633.4710250e@snowmobile> <20090309232003.09d922a2@terra.solaris> <20090309222511.751c5aea@snowmobile> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:58:40 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: abe6c52a9b483a78 Message-ID: <b41005390903092058m2ff8407q286fa4995c6ea830@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 304b19cf-e255-44fa-921c-740f044fce44 X-Archives-Hash: 0dd97da05e1e455b6f73f014b7e911b0 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:20:03 +0100 > Christian Faulhammer <fauli@gentoo.org> wrote: >> Package A goes stable, test suite passes. Package B (a dependency of >> A) goes stable in a newer version, which will cause A to not merge in >> stable profile. This happens all the time and is no special case. > > Uh, you *are* testing things that use a library before you stable that > library, right? You can't test everything. I think for a small project like exherbo where everyone basically sees eye to eye on a number of ideas this works great. Everyone agrees testing is super and they will fix broken tests or RESTRICT them. But Gentoo is bigger, and people have varying opinions, and on this topic the opinions are rather strong; so I kindly ask that you drop it. There are plenty of other far more useful features on your list that are worth your time and will actually slide through rather quickly ;) > > Besides, if a newer version of a library breaks a package using it, you > most definitely want to know about it before you end up merging > something that won't work. If src_test is failing where it used to > work, it's a very good sign that something's broken, and you shouldn't > be carrying on. > > -- > Ciaran McCreesh >