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From: "Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org>
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On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wulf C. Krueger <wk@mailstation.de> wrote:
> On Monday, 08. December 2008 17:37:42 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>> Open and public debate about the right way to do things does take
>> longer, and it's something you certainly participate in quite
>> frequently so I'm surprised to hear you badmouth it when it comes to
>> your own ideas.
>
> It's not about Ciaran's (or anyone's ideas). We openly and publicly discuss
> such things in Exherbo, too. Not endlessly, though, but we get to an actual
> decision in a much shorter timeframe.
>
> Of course, Ciaran plays along the Gentoo way of either discussing things
> till a) people are sufficiently annoyed about the length of the thread to
> stop reading it at all (the normal procedure), b) the council decides to
> postpone the decision to the next meeting during which it gets postponed to
> the next meeting (and so on) or c) it's being decided that it's not needed
> (only to discover half a year later that an issue has to be worked around
> again because the real solution was treated in the way of a) or b)). :-)
>
> So this is not badmouthing but dealing with the facts of Gentoo.
s/Gentoo/Any 'large' organization with little or no management/
it turns out this is a problem in a number of other organizations;
hopefully Gentoo will get better at addressing them.
-Alec
>
> Best regards, Wulf