From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYkB9-0001Jm-DN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:44:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0945E0406; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ABAE07CE for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0D664785 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:00:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.35 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.35 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.390, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nao3wGNLOv5E for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12E265CA4 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so1804450mue.1 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.195.10 with SMTP id s10mr13474183huf.10.1205150403529; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.25.3 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:00:03 -0800 From: "Alec Warner" Sender: antarus@scriptkitty.com To: "Jakub Moc" Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Keywords policy Cc: gentoo-core@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <47D4F26C.7050701@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080301103002.A2AE266A22@smtp.gentoo.org> <18385.19961.449228.320972@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20080308154504.02af79c2@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <200803081610.33774.philantrop@gentoo.org> <20080310060849.4c2bf0c9@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <47D4F26C.7050701@gentoo.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ce76e939b59b2c7 X-Archives-Salt: 4d839a0e-093a-4963-ba64-c4ee695715dd X-Archives-Hash: 2bb53a508596dd71cd08cef02c734e86 [+gentoo-dev] I'm just going to jump randomly in here. Also, moving this back to -dev as it is not a private matter. The bread and butter of this is what: A. KDE team drops arch keywords for KDE 4, since KDE4 is new. B. Jer re-keywords KDE4 on HPPA but doesn't try installing the software to make sure it works. C. Jer misses keywords because the KDE team did not provide a distinct list of packages and Jer was relying on repoman to notify him when he broke the deptree for HPPA. Repoman has a bug/feature that caused it to behave in an unexpected manner. So I think most people think A. is an acceptable practice. For all intents and purposes KDE4 is new software. Does anyone disagree with this? I think C is both Jer's and the KDE teams fault. How difficult is it really to produce a distinct package list KDE team? You could always refuse to keyword without such a list. I think B is the real argument here. Typically when commiting packages you are supposed to install them and at least (in the case of KDE) log into KDE and make sure it at least works. Jer, did you do this? If not; do you understand why the other developers are upset? Really I think they just want you to test things you are keywording. -Alec -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list