Re: [gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

["Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org>]

On 1/29/08, joshua jackson <tsunam@gentoo.org> wrote:
> George Prowse wrote:
> > Grant Goodyear wrote:
> >> Google has been hinting not-so-subtlely that there's going to be
> >> a 2008 Google Summer of Code.  I expect that if we want to participate,
> >> we're going to have to have our ducks in a row by March, if not
> >> earlier.
> >>
> >> So, does Gentoo want to participate this year?
> >>
> >> If so, who's going to run it?  Who's going to help?  What are
> >> we going to do differently this year?
> >>
> >> I'll help if it's something people want to do, but I'd like to see
> >> some serious changes this year.  I'd like us to only accept proposals
> >> that we actually think are quite good.  In the past we've been told
> >> that we
> >> have N slots to fill, so we choose the best N proposals, despite the
> >> fact that we often only get a handful of exceptional proposals.  I'd
> >> also like to see us require weekly public status reports from our
> >> students.  Quick show of hands: how many people know how what any
> >> of our students accomplished last year?  I doubt there are many,
> >> despite the fact that some good work was done last year.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?  Comments?
> >>
> >> -g2boojum-
> >
> > How does the SoC work within Gentoo? Do the developers suggest things
> > they want worked on or do the users suggest things, the developers
> > okay it and then they get worked on or what?
> >
> > George
> To give a short answer, its a combination of projects suggested by
> developer and projects submitted by the students. They get reviewed by
> the User Rel/SOC Staff and put into an order of projects to submit to
> Google. They then decide which ones they approve of to fund for the
> students to work on.
>

Anyone can contribute 'ideas'.  'Ideas' are not proposals and
proposals are what (in the past) we have had to rank and fund.  So if
your 'idea' doesn't get a competant proposal written by a student it
is not going to get funded, end of story.

> Ultimately its up to google to decide on the projects and how many get
> funded but we as the project have some say in the order they view them
> in. This year I'm hoping to get some decent projects that are attainable
> in the summer for students. We've had unfortunately some that have
> gotten fairly far but didn't get finished. This will also require
> mentors who work with the students who can help them succeed as well.
> Its something I'll be bringing up soon as well to discuss with the
> developer pool (as my understanding is that at least one mentor must be
> part of the project), doesn't eliminate mentors from the community but
> it'd be 2 instead of just one....

Google has no input on individual proposals that get funded; they just
fund N proposals for a given 'project' (that would be Gentoo for us).
I am unsure if we can involve the users in this process because I
don't think we have permission to post applications online.

Past experience has shown that the overwhelming majority of proposal
are terrible and won't get funded.  Perhaps I can get permission from
some of our former students to present some 'good' proposals on the
soc webpage.

>
> I need to go over more details about it but would like to apply again as
> a project.
>
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